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Old May 25, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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i have a 1979 corvette.it has a 350 that puts out 426hp.
this is what happens to me and i need some opinions and thoughts. i stomped on the gas and the clutch fan it too heavy and broke my water pump
what should i do, should i go electric and spend the money that i dont have or go with a fan that weighs less. any thoughts? thanks
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Old May 25, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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I would say if the fan clutch broke the water pump it was more than just heavy..can you expound on exactly where the pump broke, and how the fan was involved?...

Cheapest way out is a rebuilt pump and a flex fan.

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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:22 AM
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I saw this once before in a 1971 Buick GS 455. A guy from Saskatchewan stood on the throttle so hard that the fan blade actually from first apperance of a young lad of 17 years sucked the bearing right out of the water pump and right into the shroud to only 'eat' the rad. I kid you not.

Now looking back, it may have been a collection of vibration stress over time on the water pump snout, maybe a missing fan blade, though nothing through that Stage 3 hood, or maybe something loose.

It was very memorable as we all ran home with our 1/2" wrenches and tighted every loose bolt/nut from the thermostat forward.

Dano,
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Old May 26, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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any flex fan in particular?
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Old May 26, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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the pump broke right where it mounts, like an inch up, two of the bolts
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Old May 26, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jake149
any flex fan in particular?
one that moves a lot of air if the torque of your motor broke a perfectly good water pump at the mounts

Seriously I havn't used one in several years...but there has to be a break point between whats enough air to cool the engine and your tolerance of the noise....although some folks think they sound cool...
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Have you ever seen pictures of flex fan blades braking off during high RPMs and coming through the hood? Use care when installing flex fans on engines run at high RPM's.
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I've seen locked up fan clutch's break the water pump shaft .
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if anyones put on an electric fan id like to hear about it,what kind, and what you think of it. price also
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Originally Posted by ...Roger...
I've seen locked up fan clutch's break the water pump shaft .
You will notice newer model cars all use electric fans. Plus, large mechanical fans even when working correctly cause premature wear on water pump bearings.
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Funny how GM and other manufacturers built tens of millions of cars with clutch fans and bog standard cast iron pump that somehow survived 20-30-40 years untouched in some cases, yet they're 'unreliable'.

How could the HP output of an engine possibly cause a water pump to break in half?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Funny how GM and other manufacturers built tens of millions of cars with clutch fans and bog standard cast iron pump that somehow survived 20-30-40 years untouched in some cases, yet they're 'unreliable'.

How could the HP output of an engine possibly cause a water pump to break in half?
In my case I witnessed one breaking the shaft while the guy was quickly revving the engine like a mad man. The fan was a 7 blade so it was cutting some serious air.
Not sure how even a locked up fan clutch could break the pump housing.
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Originally Posted by thegazman
You will notice newer model cars all use electric fans. Plus, large mechanical fans even when working correctly cause premature wear on water pump bearings.
Don't get me wrong I prefer QUALITY fan clutches over electric fans.
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Originally Posted by ...Roger...
In my case I witnessed one breaking the shaft while the guy was quickly revving the engine like a mad man. The fan was a 7 blade so it was cutting some serious air.
Not sure how even a locked up fan clutch could break the pump housing.
I would suggest that there was a latent defect of some sort in the pump shaft and not a design error. Revving an engine with a fully locked up fan clutch is well within the range of typical operation by a consumer, isn't that what we were taught to do when stuck in heavy traffic on a hot day?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I would suggest that there was a latent defect of some sort in the pump shaft and not a design error. Revving an engine with a fully locked up fan clutch is well within the range of typical operation by a consumer, isn't that what we were taught to do when stuck in heavy traffic on a hot day?
You could be right about the defect , the car I witnessed was at the drag strip and I knew nothing about its history.
I didn't mean to insinuate there was design error, the worn out clutch should have been discovered and fixed with normal maintenance.
I don't like being under the hood with a locked fan clutch, maybe I'm a sissy but they downright scare me.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Funny how GM and other manufacturers built tens of millions of cars with clutch fans and bog standard cast iron pump that somehow survived 20-30-40 years untouched in some cases, yet they're 'unreliable'.

How could the HP output of an engine possibly cause a water pump to break in half?
I've never seen a water pump last 40 years. I've put two on my 79 in the last ten years. One was a GM.
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Originally Posted by thegazman
I've never seen a water pump last 40 years. I've put two on my 79 in the last ten years. One was a GM.

They broke in half?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
They broke in half?
No Mike, they didn't break in half. Just wore out the bearing. I attribute some of that to the affect of a large, heavy fan.
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