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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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So who makes a really good color match paint to replicate the Vette primer used around the dash and kick panel areas? I think this is a zinc chromate? Is that right? Anyhow I bought some from a source that has a great reputation in the industry for restoration products and I have always been happy with their Rust Encapsulator and Chassis Black, etc. However, I have to say I was disappointed in their Vette primer. Here is a pic that shows some of the original primer near the bottom as a contrast to the product that I started to shoot on to freshen it up before I put the interior back in.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Heres another pic that illustrates the contrast left (OEM) to right (touch up paint). Maybe its just the fading effect after 40 years?
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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look for someone who sells milspec paint and i believe it is close to a aircraft primer
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look for someone who sells milspec paint and i believe it is close to a aircraft primer
You have it right already, paint is Zinc Chromate primer, used still a lot in Military contracts. I agree your color is off, not matt enough or tan enough to look like OEM GM.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Yep, looks like Zinc Chromate to me too - is the painted part aluminum?

It's pretty much been replaced by a Boeing paint these days...

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...mateprimer.php

Be careful with that stuff - it's nasty.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Zinc chromate primer is for aluminum surfaces that have been 'rust' anodized. It is also more Yellow in color than 'green. It is/was widely used in the aviation industry. We used it a lot in the Navy.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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Yep - but it will stick to just about anything.

There are two colors - yellow and green - see the link I posted.
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Old Sep 7, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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For reference, here is the zinc chromate I bought off the web., made by Moeller Marine Products:

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Originally Posted by billla
Yep, looks like Zinc Chromate to me too - is the painted part aluminum?

It's pretty much been replaced by a Boeing paint these days...

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...mateprimer.php

Be careful with that stuff - it's nasty.
Breathing protection is necessary.
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That aircraft spruce green zinc chromate is VERY close if not spot on. I had some that I used to prime the inside of a tail on a Zodiac home built I was building, and it's really close. After 40 years, it'll be hard to match it exactly, but that's the closest I've seen that's readily available.
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PPG DP40 is a fairly flat geen primer. Great primer also. Looks more like your original than the new stuff you put on.

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Dupli-color makes a zinc chromate, self-etching primer for bare metal treatment. It seems to be the right color and does the job just fine.
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Long Island Corvette has a very good match in spray cans.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Dupli-color makes a zinc chromate, self-etching primer for bare metal treatment. It seems to be the right color and does the job just fine.
Is this the stuff?

http://www.duplicolor.com/products/selfEtchingPrimer/

This would be a way better pick if the color matches; as noted actual Zinc Chromate is stuff you want to avoid if you can.
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Why do you want to "avoid" it? Because of 'health dangers'??? .

Open the window....
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Why do you want to "avoid" it? Because of 'health dangers'??? .

Open the window....
From a couple of folks above that have worked with it extensively (read posts above) to someone who clearly hasn't - ZC is extremely toxic, which is why it's not commonly used any more.

It's this type of material safety attitude that gets people hurt.

Breathing protection, gloves, etc. and proper disposal with ZC is mandatory.

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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Dupli-color makes a zinc chromate, self-etching primer for bare metal treatment. It seems to be the right color and does the job just fine.
I ordered a can today. Will try it out. Thanks to all for the tips. I think the green paint most commonly used for this primer in the current market is probably zinc 'phosphate' rather than zinc 'chromate'. The phosphate is probably more eco and human friendly. Not a chemist, just guessing, but I DID sleep in a Holiday Inn one time, so there ya go.
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Good call - I hope the color is "close enough". ZP is definitely more friendly in every way - chromates are what's nasty

I work a bunch with anodizing and ZC in aircraft restoration. Wherever possible we use Boeing's primer and then a paint that matches the color of ZC - the guys that I work with have been around a long time and they've seen the danger of ZC
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Originally Posted by billla
Good call - I hope the color is "close enough". ZP is definitely more friendly in every way - chromates are what's nasty

I work a bunch with anodizing and ZC in aircraft restoration. Wherever possible we use Boeing's primer and then a paint that matches the color of ZC - the guys that I work with have been around a long time and they've seen the danger of ZC

In a previous life (back in the late 60's early 70's) I worked in the railcar industry and it was common to use red lead primers on all that stuff. It was an awesome primer and actually staid semi soft or "live" for years in that it would almost heal back over small scratches and dings. However, that was also very nasty stuff from a health and environment standpoint and has been outlawed for years now. They also used a lot of cadmium plating back in those days. Which may be still around but if it is it is heavily regulated.
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