C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

350 vs 383

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 14, 2011 | 07:10 PM
  #1  
Don Lind's Avatar
Don Lind
Thread Starter
6th Gear
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: Hudson MA
Default 350 vs 383

A few questions from a novice; I have 68 Corvette (number matching)327/350HP. With either a M20 or M21 transmission, rear-end I believe is a 3.36/1. I’m planning on removing the 327 (storing it) and replacing it with a 405hp/440TK.

1. I’m considering the purchase of either a 350 or 383 engine from Summit Racing or DPM Power. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience, good or bad, with either of these vendors and what it was.

2. Will the transmission handle the additional HP and torque or do I need to have it beefed up

3. Same question for the rear-end which I believe is a 3.36/1.

4. Assuming the HP and Torque are about the same, is there really that much difference between a 350 and a 383? If so what is it? I’ve read many comments saying to go with the 383 stroker, However, did not read an explanation ( maybe I missed it) of the reasoning behind it. I admit I’ve not read all the thread on engines

5. Is there another vendor I should look at? (I’ve ruled out CHS Machine Co. in Oregon based on negative comments in the forum)

Thanks for any advice you can give me

Oh yes I forgot one important question, will the 327 exhaust manifold bolt up to the 383 or will I need new manifolds to run to my side pipes ?

Rgards,
Don

Last edited by Don Lind; Jan 15, 2011 at 11:11 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2011 | 07:17 PM
  #2  
Scott Marzahl's Avatar
Scott Marzahl
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,339
Likes: 416
From: Seattle Area WA
Default

Being in Maine, you should be talking to Carl (Blockman) for a killer 383 since he is in your backyard. Yes your trans is fine.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2011 | 07:41 PM
  #3  
carbster09's Avatar
carbster09
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 914
Likes: 14
From: Aberdeen, Scotland
Default

Generally speaking torque is a function of displacement. HP is a function of RPM. So, in very general terms with many other factors equal a 383 will give you an extra 30 ft lbs. Is this an important factor? Up to you .... but torque moves street engines.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:03 PM
  #4  
Don Lind's Avatar
Don Lind
Thread Starter
6th Gear
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: Hudson MA
Default

Originally Posted by Scott Marzahl
Being in Maine, you should be talking to Carl (Blockman) for a killer 383 since he is in your backyard. Yes your trans is fine.
Actualy I'm in Mass. about 20 miles west of Boston, next to Marlboro Mass.

Do you know of any one in this area I might speak with?

Thanks again.

Last edited by Don Lind; Jan 14, 2011 at 10:04 PM. Reason: Typos
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:06 PM
  #5  
Imo Apita's Avatar
Imo Apita
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 576
Likes: 3
Default

Well as far as useless info is concerned, my 350 runs on 5 cylinders right now and my 383 will run on 8
No kidding my 383 will be bad-***.
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:42 PM
  #6  
Manuel Azevedo's Avatar
Manuel Azevedo
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 4
From: Concord Calif
Default

The more cubic inchs at the same HP and rpm the smoother running the engine will be, (less cam lope)
Reply
Old Jan 14, 2011 | 10:54 PM
  #7  
cv67's Avatar
cv67
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 81,241
Likes: 3,062
From: altered state
St. Jude Donor '05
Default

Youll experience the torque increase at all rpms, youll love it.
It will leave in first better with your trans/rearend gearing and if you choose to lug the motor some it will do it much better than a 350.
For the street its real hard to beat a stroker youll love it.

It may only sound like 30 or so cubes wouldnt make a big difference but its the characteristic OF the power that youll like. I regret building a hot 350 this time around, even as overbuilt as it is a larger ci would feel a lot better.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 08:05 AM
  #8  
U17's Avatar
U17
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,070
Likes: 5
From: N.Richland Hills Texas
Default

Summit ZZ383... Great experience all around.... 425hp , 450# tq....
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 08:32 AM
  #9  
L88Plus's Avatar
L88Plus
Drifting
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,883
Likes: 124
From: Lubbock TX
Default

My son and I built comparable engines at the same time, each dropped into a late 90's Tahoe. He used RHS Vortec heads, I used GM's. I cleaned the bowls and short turns up on mine and just did bowl work on his, they didn't have GM's ridge. Same LT4 cam, same tune. His is a stroker, mine a 350. His truck is a 4-door, mine a 2-door, I'm guessing he outweighs me by 500lbs or so. His truck runs off and leaves mine like I'm tied to a post, the power difference is amazing. Part of it is probably due to the better heads, but that extra stroke/cubes makes more torque, period.

You really should find you a good rebuildable 400, the extra 1/8" of bore makes a bigger difference than you'd think when it comes to optimizing cylinder head breathing.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 10:13 AM
  #10  
DRIVESHAFT's Avatar
DRIVESHAFT
Drifting
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,682
Likes: 3
From: League City TX
Default

Originally Posted by Don Lind

4. Assuming the HP and Torque are about the same, is there really that much difference between a 350 and a 383? If so what is it? I’ve read many comments saying to go with the 383 stroker, However, did not read an explanation ( maybe I missed it) of the reasoning behind it. I admit I’ve not read all the thread on engines
If the HP & Torque are the same then the 383 has no advantage.
But, if the HP & Torque are the same then there is something wrong with your 383.
Extra cubic inches are always a good thing when making power is the goal.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 11:12 AM
  #11  
Texana's Avatar
Texana
Heel & Toe
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: San Diego CA
Default

Originally Posted by Don Lind
1. I’m considering the purchase of either a 350 or 383 engine from Summit Racing or DPM Power. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience, good or bad, with either of these vendors and what it was.
While I haven't purchased my 383 yet (wont have time to install for a few months anyways) I did call around several vendors, as I had questions relating to the engines. I have to say, I was very impressed with DMP at least on the service level. Its a smaller company, but they had the person responsible for building and testing the 383's call me back a few hours later. Its rare that you get to talk to someone who's not just looking at a fact sheet on the other end, and this guy really knew his stuff. I don't know what that's worth to you, but it left me feeling good about purchasing from them.

They were also are willing to do any customizing I'd like. They will use a chrome version of the intake for a little extra, or even paint the motor a color scheme of your choosing; you can even send them the paint you'd like them to use.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 11:12 AM
  #12  
Belgian1979vette's Avatar
Belgian1979vette
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,164
Likes: 7
From: Beringen
Default

Originally Posted by L88Plus
My son and I built comparable engines at the same time, each dropped into a late 90's Tahoe. He used RHS Vortec heads, I used GM's. I cleaned the bowls and short turns up on mine and just did bowl work on his, they didn't have GM's ridge. Same LT4 cam, same tune. His is a stroker, mine a 350. His truck is a 4-door, mine a 2-door, I'm guessing he outweighs me by 500lbs or so. His truck runs off and leaves mine like I'm tied to a post, the power difference is amazing. Part of it is probably due to the better heads, but that extra stroke/cubes makes more torque, period.

You really should find you a good rebuildable 400, the extra 1/8" of bore makes a bigger difference than you'd think when it comes to optimizing cylinder head breathing.

Is the rear end ratio the same ?
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 11:40 AM
  #13  
Scott Marzahl's Avatar
Scott Marzahl
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,339
Likes: 416
From: Seattle Area WA
Default

Here are some actual chassis dyno numbers from a well tuned 327/350
293 ft-lb and 293 hp @ 5,500 so just think what a well built 383 will put down.
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 09:34 AM
  #14  
69Zlover's Avatar
69Zlover
Advanced
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
Default

473tq @ 4500 and 443hp @ 5750 could have bumped it up a bit if I dropped the aluminum water pump and went to an electrical one but its about the looks Still pondering a turbo or pro charger but that might take away from its looks and advertise to much...
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 11:05 AM
  #15  
L88Plus's Avatar
L88Plus
Drifting
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,883
Likes: 124
From: Lubbock TX
Default

Originally Posted by Belgian1979vette
Is the rear end ratio the same ?
Yes, they are.
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 01:28 PM
  #16  
Belgian1979vette's Avatar
Belgian1979vette
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,164
Likes: 7
From: Beringen
Default

What I don't get is, if the only aspect that matters to an engine is ci, why not built a big block, like a 454 ?
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 03:29 PM
  #17  
Scott Marzahl's Avatar
Scott Marzahl
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,339
Likes: 416
From: Seattle Area WA
Default

Weight and handling are much better with a small block.
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 03:50 PM
  #18  
Belgian1979vette's Avatar
Belgian1979vette
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,164
Likes: 7
From: Beringen
Default

Originally Posted by Scott Marzahl
Weight and handling are much better with a small block.
Sure, but i would assume that torque of a big block would be alot more and if weight would be an issue, you could use a aluminum block.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To 350 vs 383





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:37 AM.

story-0
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE