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Old May 11, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Hey Dave. Have you put gauges on the system to see what the pressures are running? My late model '77 does not have VIR. I do not know when they changed over. I believe VIR has a dryer under the pass. fender that can be taken apart. Mine has a welded shut dryer. Post a pic. of yours. mike...
Yeah I have a brand new VIR. And yes I am running the original fan with new clutch. I was thinking of placing a fan on the outside of the condensor. But In order to do that I need to remove the hood. If I remove the hood I might as well just replace the condensor since it's there. Do you really think that if I remove the fan and replace with an electric that will solve the problem? I don't want to waste $$ on a fan to find out it does'nt work as good as a new parallel flow condenser will.
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Old May 11, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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Electric fan(s) help, but are no substitute for a parallel flow condenser.

Here's what mine looks like. I welded on the tabs and used wiper motor bushings to mount it. I local HVAC shop made the fittings.



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Old May 11, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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I think i'll go the new condensor route. I've been looking and they go for 80-120 bucks. I just need to find the correct size and one with the connections on one side like our originals. As for brackets thats not a concern. I can always fabricate somthing to make it work. My main issue is the connections. Are they all the same size? Or are some smaller/larger? I'd like to find one that I can unscrew from mine and tighten on to a new one with out any hassle.
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Old May 11, 2011 | 10:42 PM
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No matter what other mods you do if using 134 you have to adjust the poa.
Refrigerant pressure from the poa = evaporator temperature. You want it at 33° (as cold as possible without freezing)
Different pressures for different refrigerants.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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No matter what other mods you do if using 134 you have to adjust the poa.
Refrigerant pressure from the poa = evaporator temperature. You want it at 33° (as cold as possible without freezing)
Different pressures for different refrigerants.
I have a VIR, that can not be adjusted. It is for the r134.. I wish my 77 did have a poa.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by daanbc
I have a VIR, that can not be adjusted. It is for the r134.. I wish my 77 did have a poa.
The vir has an integral poa inside.
Most will tell that it's not adjustable, not much call for it and more profitable to sell eliminator kit, but I'll see if I can find the instructions.

VIR is definitely the one to consider staying with 12
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Old May 12, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by noonie
The vir has an integral poa inside.
Most will tell that it's not adjustable, not much call for it and more profitable to sell eliminator kit, but I'll see if I can find the instructions.

VIR is definitely the one to consider staying with 12
Are you saying that maybe there is an adjustment that can be made on the VIR? The only way I knew of, was to get two, cut one open and take the so-called pin out, and adjust it and replace it into the other VIR.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by daanbc
Are you saying that maybe there is an adjustment that can be made on the VIR? The only way I knew of, was to get two, cut one open and take the so-called pin out, and adjust it and replace it into the other VIR.
A VIR (valve in receiver) does not have to be cut open. It has four bolts that hold the receiver can on it. When you open it up you will find a desiccant bag in the bottom, and the POA valve is located in the top.
You can buy a rebuild kit that comes with a new desiccant bag and new o-rings. The last time I had mine apart I adjusted it (per instructions I found on a A/C forum) for 134a. This time I am installing a eliminator kit though.


It appears that the VIR was used on C3's from 73 through early 77.
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I found the thread from when I did mine.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...t-to-134a.html
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Im hoping my VIR was already adjusted for R134. Since it was purchased a year ago, I'm hoping it is...
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Originally Posted by daanbc
Im hoping my VIR was already adjusted for R134. Since it was purchased a year ago, I'm hoping it is...
Well if you are opening up the system again you will have to either rebuild or replace it, so you might as well check the adjustment on it while it's out. Or better yet install the eliminator kit instead.
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