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Old Jul 7, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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I guess I never noticed this (and maybe I did but the oldtimers erased it) but thought I would take a pic in case someones testing and runs into this.
I was talking with a CF member about his neutral safety switch and he noted the purple and purple/white flip from the car harness to the NS switch harness. I went out to check my old harness and it was the same.
So if your looking for 12 volts coming IN to the NS switch on the purple/white FROM the ignition switch make sure you follow the wires up to the connector to make sure your on the correct wire.
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Old Jul 7, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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Roger, I had not noticed that, until now that you brought it up. I am assuming that the plug, only goes one way, and that it is correct that they flip like that, or are they suppose to be the same ?????
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Who cares? It's a switch that passes power from one of those purple lines into the other. It doesn't really matter which direction the current flow is through the switch.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Who cares?
This might be difficult to understand but I'll try.
During "testing" (not guessing) if one of our members is asking for help and goes to the switch and puts a 12v test light on the exposed terminal of the purple/white and the test light fails to light he is going to assume at that point there is no power coming from the ignition switch because he was testing the WRONG wire.

We've all experienced these little wrong turns while diagnosing an electrical problem ,which for some of us is a momentary hmmm but for a rookie it can have him dropping the steering column to inspect the ignition switch and then "Corvette electrical system overload".
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Roger...you are sum kinda good. Wish I had ya for a neighbor!
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Old Jul 8, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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Roger...you are sum kinda good. Wish I had ya for a neighbor!
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I wish you were my neighbor ,the lady next door (due to the economy) has decided to watch 6 kids to make ends meet,plus she has 4 small ankle biters.
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Roger, I had not noticed that, until now that you brought it up. I am assuming that the plug, only goes one way, and that it is correct that they flip like that, or are they suppose to be the same ?????
Sarge I waited until I checked some of my other harness's until I posted.
I have 3 older purple-purple type harness's my others are later purple-green or purple-yellow harness's.
2 of the older ones (73 and back) are the same with the , flipped. The other one bubba got hold of and put a jumper in to take the place of the switch but wires in the car harness plug are in the same location.

I'm hoping some others will chime in with their experiences on this very boring subject.
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While not 100% related to the subject, and hope I not hi-jacking, I just posted that in attempting replacement of this switch, I can't seem to separate the connectors for the back-up lights from the switch to the console wires. Roger, if you wouldn't mind, could you please look at the switch's harness in your pic and see if there is a tab holding the 2 back up connectors together or do they just pull apart? I don't see a tab but I don't have a lot of room to work. Jud

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Originally Posted by Jud Chapin
While not 100% related to the subject, and hope I not hi-jacking, I just posted that in attempting replacement of this switch, I'm can't seem to separate the connectors for the back-up lights from the switch to the console wires. Roger, if you wouldn't mind, could you please look at the switch's harness in your pic and see if there is a tab holding the 2 back up connectors together or do they just pull apart? I don't see a tab but I don't have a lot of room to work. Jud
I just posted to your thread. You'll just have to pull but use 2 pair of pliers so you don't pull on the wires. No tab.
I did go out and pulled apart the one in the pic.
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I just posted to your thread. You'll just have to pull but use 2 pair of pliers so you don't pull on the wires. No tab.
I did go out and pulled apart the one in the pic.
Thank you!
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Hey Jud , since your in the console , could you look at your 2 purple safety switch wires and see if they flip colors at the connector ? Thanks
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Originally Posted by ...Roger...
Hey Jud , since your in the console , could you look at your 2 purple safety switch wires and see if they flip colors at the connector ? Thanks
Yes they do...
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Thank you Roger, for the info.
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Hi Roger,
With that many kids next door can't you borrow a small one and train him/her to work under the dash with their little arms and hands?
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Alan , that's a great idea,when your given lemons make lemon-aid.
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Roger...

Your scenario is correct, if you are using a test light. Personally, I'm not a 'test light' kind of guy...I'd rather use an ohmmeter and check out the circuits without power running in them. Nasty things happen to some folks when they leave power on while diagnosing an electrical problem. (the modicon is not really meant to be a "Rock On!" symbol in this case; I just thought the little sucker looked like he just got hit with 220 volts!)
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Roger...

Your scenario is correct, if you are using a test light. Personally, I'm not a 'test light' kind of guy...I'd rather use an ohmmeter and check out the circuits without power running in them. Nasty things happen to some folks when they leave power on while diagnosing an electrical problem. (the modicon is not really meant to be a "Rock On!" symbol in this case; I just thought the little sucker looked like he just got hit with 220 volts!)
I agree an ohm meter is a useful tool,would you mind describing the steps you would take using an ohm meter to diagnose a problem described as "no starter engagement when turning the key to the start position" ?
I'm always open to ways different from my own to diagnose problems.
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Originally Posted by ...Roger...
I agree an ohm meter is a useful tool,would you mind describing the steps you would take using an ohm meter to diagnose a problem described as "no starter engagement when turning the key to the start position" ?
I'm always open to ways different from my own to diagnose problems.
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What's wrong with voltage drop or amps?
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Determine the wiring path from the schematic; pull fuse [if necessary]; put probes on either side of switch circuit; turn ignition switch to see if connection is made. If you need to 'see' voltage, leave battery connected and switch meter to DCV scale...check for 12v. [But, you already know all of this stuff....]
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Determine the wiring path from the schematic; pull fuse [if necessary]; put probes on either side of switch circuit; turn ignition switch to see if connection is made. If you need to 'see' voltage, leave battery connected and switch meter to DCV scale...check for 12v. [But, you already know all of this stuff....]
Eh, I check it by length/brilliance of the arc when I short it out.....

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