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I need to decide soon which type of distributor to go with for the 468 I am getting close to installing in my '68 Coupe. Since I am setting it up to look somewhat like an L88 my preference would be to go with a factory looking TI set up. Problem there is that since there were so many variations of timing curves on all those iterations I have no idea which (part number) would work best in my modified 468 (LS6 heads, roller cam, etc.). Second, would be an HEI but I don't believe that big distributor would fit in my engine bay, last would be a factory points type distributor as was used pre 1975. Has anyone on here solved which TI to use with their engines? What other recommendations? Thanks in advance for your input.
That unit from Dave's HEI's looks interesting. I'm wondering what coil is used? (Needs to be a higher potential coil than stock, if the HEI is going to be of any value.) The correct and functioning TI for your car would be expensive to buy and antiquated, compared to a good MSD unit. Since the TI unit is placed where you really can't see it anyway, why not install the MSD unit there?
If I had your engine, and had spent that much money and time putting it together, I would want an electronic ignition system on it: either the GM (or clone-type) HEI or an MSD or Pertronix system. The newer Pertronix module will fit into the stock points-type distributor; it with a higher power coil would do the job nicely, too, and still have a 'stock' appearance.
i just replaced a pertronix converted OE distributor with the MSD tach drive unit....the 73 likes it a lot. much smoother and more responsive. the only thing about the MSD units is they tend to corrode.
Problem there is that since there were so many variations of timing curves on all those iterations I have no idea which (part number) would work best in my modified 468 (LS6 heads, roller cam, etc.).
You'll need to put whatever you buy on a distributor machine to set the advance curve to suit your particular engine.
Buy an OEM tach drive dizzy, cut off the vacuum advance pot's nipple to look L88-ish, and install a Pertronix points/condenser eliminator kit which is hidden under the cap. You can add an MSD box and hide it in the wheelwell. It will look stock with a black painted coil but have modern high rpm reliability. Then, you can throw away the old dwell meter too!
Last edited by 69 Chevy; Jul 26, 2011 at 08:28 AM.
a GM HEI with a tach drive is one of the easiest units to run....no extra break down junk under the hood and is as good as any on the market contrary to the advertising and puffing from speed shops.....The only down fall is you lose bragging rights at the local car gatherings....until you blow them off without that fancy high dollar crap....Now thats real fun.........
a GM HEI with a tach drive is one of the easiest units to run....no extra break down junk under the hood and is as good as any on the market contrary to the advertising and puffing from speed shops.....The only down fall is you lose bragging rights at the local car gatherings....until you blow them off without that fancy high dollar crap....Now thats real fun.........
I don't disagree with this at all. On a previous vehicle ('72 El Camino) I owned for many years with a stout 406 in it, I had the opportunity to try out an aftermarket dizzy or two and when I finally settled on a simple factory HEI that was easily the best performing unit that Elky ever saw. I would go there again if I can squeeze it in. Otherwise I like the Pertronics option as noted above by 69 Chevy. Thanks to all for the very valuable input.
I need to decide soon which type of distributor to go with for the 468 I am getting close to installing in my '68 Coupe. Since I am setting it up to look somewhat like an L88 my preference would be to go with a factory looking TI set up. Problem there is that since there were so many variations of timing curves on all those iterations I have no idea which (part number) would work best in my modified 468 (LS6 heads, roller cam, etc.). Second, would be an HEI but I don't believe that big distributor would fit in my engine bay, last would be a factory points type distributor as was used pre 1975. Has anyone on here solved which TI to use with their engines? What other recommendations? Thanks in advance for your input.
I've used HEI's, Mallory Billet tach drive, and stock Vette distributors with Pertronix innards. They all fit small block, big block, and with an adjustable flange, even tall deck motors.
Hei is the easiest to set up, but in my opinion, look dumb. I went through them all and went back to the stock tach drive with pertronix. Easist to time and adjust curve. Looks correct too.
I've used HEI's, Mallory Billet tach drive, and stock Vette distributors with Pertronix innards. They all fit small block, big block, and with an adjustable flange, even tall deck motors.
Hei is the easiest to set up, but in my opinion, look dumb. I went through them all and went back to the stock tach drive with pertronix. Easist to time and adjust curve. Looks correct too.
Thats what I did with mine, I also had it dialed in on a dist. machine. That way I could just drop it in and set the timing and no screwing around trying to guess where the weights are coming in etc...
This may be a dumb question but how do they "dial it in on a distributor machine"? Do you give them the specs on your engine, trans, rear end ratio, etc. and they do it from there, or does it have to be done on a dyno?
This may be a dumb question but how do they "dial it in on a distributor machine"? Do you give them the specs on your engine, trans, rear end ratio, etc. and they do it from there, or does it have to be done on a dyno?
Never a dumb question. Its just a more stable way to check and set distributor to make sure its doing what you think its doing. It is a machine that the distributor sits on and it can turn dist at any speed selected, it shows all 8 firing positions. As you increase rpm you can read exactly when and how much each position is advancing by the weights. Then by using vacuum pump you can slowly advance by vacuum. There are a bunch of other small things that can be detected such as weight wear in the pin holes, or the pins themselves. My buddy has one in his garage and everyone who works on cars use it. He picked it up at a swap meet for about 35 bucks. Most people dont know what they are or how they work.
What is so different with your engine that an HEI won't fit?
Nothing unusual about my engine but when I look at the space available I just can't see it fitting in there. Attached is a pic of not my car but a similar (only small block) with the old style dizzy in it. The HEI I had in my El Camino was much larger in diameter than that one is and it barely fits. That's all I was trying to say.
for custom work Nelson. at Nelson specialties racing ignitions in Charlotte N.C. he's been in the buisness over 40 years and does work for several NASCAR. teams
At most the washer pump MAY interfere a tiny bit for the hei installation only.
A good dialback timing lite with tach and a hand vacuum pump will accomplish the same thing as a dist machine, a little more effort.
If wanting the oem look and hei performance, the Dave's small cap is by far the best choice for the money. I believe he gives a lifetime warranty too. Nice to have off the shelf anywhere replacement parts too.