1972 corvette Paint
Racer
Joined: Jul 2010
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From: Manahawkin NJ
I have a dog and don't belong to the Westminster Kennel Club. I have lots of fun with him. The people who decide to show their dog and spend hours clipping, cleaning and whatever else they do to prepare the dog to have it's ***** squeezed by a judge are enjoying their dog in a different way. When I hear two ore more show dog owners talking about their sport/hobby I do not offer advise on how to prep for judging. My advice might make someone not do well in the show. That is what started this whole tangent from the original question. Someone who does not know or even like the NCRS made a statement that others reading might take as fact, alter there car in a way that would hurt NCRS judging. Mike only pointed out that someone who was not an NCRS member with limited knowledge of NCRS scoring made a statement as if it was fact on the internet. "queering" over bolt markings is excessive but that is what sets the mark to be judged.
Can't we just bash the people who use their Corvette as daily drivers and don't wash them. The problem is the mind set that "Anyone who drives slower then me is an a$$hole and anyone who drives faster is a maniac."
Instructor
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 173
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From: Blk Mtn NC
I have about 10 - $15k reasons that I would choose to not have the crappy factory like paint
So yes I chose a path that I knew would not be accepted. I would still like it relaxed so we can agree to disagree.
You should still be able to Top Flite with shiny door jambs. I have been told you can not Top Flite with a full paint deduct. Love to hear it is not true.
They relax most all the other judging standards as all of the Top Flite cars I have ever seen have far nicer chassis and engine compartments than the factory EVER produced. This is almost always overlooked.
The funny thing is that even lacquer was not all that dull before buffing and you could read the hands on a clock once buffed out. God forbid the dealer prep may have included buffing out the jambs and fixing some of the crappy factory paint. There was a thread on the NCRS site saying this may have happened since we know how corvette guys can be.
If you ask three different judges how dull is dull , they will have three different opinions.
Bottom line is the paint judging is very subjective at best.
I know of one instance where a 72 Bryar Blue Convertible was restored. When restored they used the unfaded color in the jambs and behind the door panel to achieve a perfect match. Car went to judging and a deduct was taken for the color match. They based it on an original paint car that was 40 years old. Do you think that just maybe even under the best circumstances that the 40 year old paint may have faded?
I don't think I have ever seen a deduct for incorrect comfort weave. Thank goodness because that is all that is available.
I still love NCRS so please just consider this one more opinion.
So yes I chose a path that I knew would not be accepted. I would still like it relaxed so we can agree to disagree. You should still be able to Top Flite with shiny door jambs. I have been told you can not Top Flite with a full paint deduct. Love to hear it is not true.
They relax most all the other judging standards as all of the Top Flite cars I have ever seen have far nicer chassis and engine compartments than the factory EVER produced. This is almost always overlooked.
The funny thing is that even lacquer was not all that dull before buffing and you could read the hands on a clock once buffed out. God forbid the dealer prep may have included buffing out the jambs and fixing some of the crappy factory paint. There was a thread on the NCRS site saying this may have happened since we know how corvette guys can be.
If you ask three different judges how dull is dull , they will have three different opinions.
Bottom line is the paint judging is very subjective at best.
I know of one instance where a 72 Bryar Blue Convertible was restored. When restored they used the unfaded color in the jambs and behind the door panel to achieve a perfect match. Car went to judging and a deduct was taken for the color match. They based it on an original paint car that was 40 years old. Do you think that just maybe even under the best circumstances that the 40 year old paint may have faded?
I don't think I have ever seen a deduct for incorrect comfort weave. Thank goodness because that is all that is available.
I still love NCRS so please just consider this one more opinion.
As for 40 year old original paint, I have it and can tell you it's somewhat faded compared to the door jambs.
Why not use a controlled samples chart of the original Dupont, etc. colors rather than a subjective 40 year old original sample?
I don't know how to order the "faded" option from the paint codes.
Thanks,
Mike
