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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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I read though Lars' Q-Jet tuning article because my car bogs when I floor it - then it will take off. Or if I grab the throttle and quickly open it up with my hand it will bog. If I slow down the throttle opening a little it will raise RPM smoothly - no bog.
So tried Lars' test whereby you disconnect the accelerator pump lever and then rev the throttle by hand. When I do this my stumble becomes much worse - which supposedly means a Lean condition - however, when I cup my hand over the plates to cut off the air supply, the engine does not rev up any further.
It doesn't backfire on decel. as well.
Does this sound like a lean issue?
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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Sounds to me like the primary jet/rod combination is lean. And your idle circuit is fine.
Are there any modifications to the engine or exhaust? I just changed over to 2 1/2" pipes with Magnaflow mufflers and had to richen the primary combo quite a bit to make it run right..
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Have you verified that the accelerator pump is good?
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 11:20 PM
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That's the first thing to check. With engine OFF, remove air cleaner, open choke, look down into the primary venturi and quickly give the throttle linkage a WOT twist. If you don't see a strong stream of fuel from the accelerator pump outlets, or if it is weak or short, that's likely your problem. If it has been more than a couple of years since the carb was rebuilt...and you buy gas with ethanol in it, the accelerator pump piston seal may be wasted.

If you do replace that seal, get an Echlin accel pump rebuild kit from NAPA. I believe that their seals are unaffected by the ethanol.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
:If you do replace that seal, get an Echlin accel pump rebuild kit from NAPA. I believe that their seals are unaffected by the ethanol.
I disagree. Read this June 2010 post by Lars regarding problems with Echlin accelerator pumps:

Echlin/NAPA Q-Jet Accelerator Pumps: Horrible, Dangerous Product Quality

Accelerator pumps sold by Cliff Ruggles have been tested to be compatible with ethanol "enhanced" fuels. You can find them here:

http://www.cliffshighperformance.com/acc-pump.html
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Appreciate the input. I'll order from Cliff, next time.
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Old Jan 4, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 78IndyPace
I disagree. Read this June 2010 post by Lars regarding problems with Echlin accelerator pumps:

Echlin/NAPA Q-Jet Accelerator Pumps: Horrible, Dangerous Product Quality

Accelerator pumps sold by Cliff Ruggles have been tested to be compatible with ethanol "enhanced" fuels. You can find them here:

http://www.cliffshighperformance.com/acc-pump.html

Thank You 78IndyPace for the link to Lars thread on accel. pumps.
What a great amount of info. is put forth when Lars,Cliff and OlesCarbs. gets together!
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