New style axles
Drifting
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Not sure what you mean, but if you do mean a C5/C6 style trans-axle for a C3, there are a couple of reasons that come to mind. For one thing, there isn't any room for it in a C3. The trans-axles are a lot larger than the diff assembly in a C3, so you'd have to modify the rear floor pan and probably move the seats apart into room that doesn't exist. Then you'd have to fit a shortened torque tube between the trans and the engine/clutch. The C3 wheelbase is 98" and the C5 wheelbase is 104.5" - the C6 is even longer. Then you'd have to mod the trans-axle's diff to mate with the C3 halfshafts. How much do you think all that will cost? And how many C3 owners would be willing to step up to spending those bucks? A 5 or 6 speed trans in the normal C3 location is a much more cost effective solution.
I'm sure others will chime in and give their opinions.
I'm sure others will chime in and give their opinions.
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Melting Slicks
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Well I didn't say put a c5/c6 transaxle whole dang setup into a c3. I am asking why can't someone make a hub that bolts to the diff with the same joint style and bar as the newer transaxles. Even like the transaxles in front wheel drive cars? Just seems like they can make those things good for 1000hp and it'd be a lot less inertia. I mean you have a bar with a joint on either end, weather it slides into the diff/outerhub or it bolts on. I'm just wondering why no1 has treid this?
Drifting
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W'ell I didn't say put a c5/c6 transaxle whole dang setup into a c3. I am asking why can't someone make a hub that bolts to the diff with the same joint style and bar as the newer transaxles. Even like the transaxles in front wheel drive cars? Just seems like they can make those things good for 1000hp and it'd be a lot less inertia. I mean you have a bar with a joint on either end, weather it slides into the diff/outerhub or it bolts on. I'm just wondering why no1 has treid this?
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I don't know why you seem offended, because YOU were the one who used the wrong terminology!
Like Mike already stated, a "transaxel" is a combination transmission & differential. What you are talking about are half shafts with CV joints at each end. BIG difference there buddy!!
I too have wonderedf the same thing, as well as why no one has come up with a kit to put a IRS 9 inch diff in these cars.
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Melting Slicks
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My mistake I took this as a car forum, I mean really it takes you all to correct me? I just had a question bout something I thought would be worth exploreing. So what if I had to use the incorrect term to try and explain what I meant.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
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My mistake I took this as a car forum, I mean really it takes you all to correct me? I just had a question bout something I thought would be worth exploreing. So what if I had to use the incorrect term to try and explain what I meant.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
See if they'll teach you how to spell over there, too.
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My mistake I took this as a car forum, I mean really it takes you all to correct me? I just had a question bout something I thought would be worth exploreing. So what if I had to use the incorrect term to try and explain what I meant.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
Wow, that's two new applicants for my ignore list in one day!
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I know what you are talking about. Substituting the hollow rear axle for a solid one like you see on all modern cars. I've wondered about that myself. The flanges would have to be custom made but given the number of pics that I've seen of C3 axles twisted up like a piece of pasta it might be worth the effort.
BTW, you are lucky that I happened to understand what you meant. Your spelling as well as your attitude needs a lot of work.
Rick B.
BTW, you are lucky that I happened to understand what you meant. Your spelling as well as your attitude needs a lot of work.
Rick B.
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hey man don't take it so harsh. they did the same thing to me for my spelling. once they gave me an explanation (they couldn't translate) i understood why they were coming after me and i changed. we all sometimes use the wrong words, and personally i like when somebody corrects me because i no longer sound like a dork who don't know what he's talking about.
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AND I'VE ONLY BEEN A MEMBER FOR A MONTH AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT FORUM. i've learned a lot from these people. many of them are very knowledgeable people.
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My mistake I took this as a car forum, I mean really it takes you all to correct me? I just had a question bout something I thought would be worth exploreing. So what if I had to use the incorrect term to try and explain what I meant.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
This is too easy!
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My mistake I took this as a car forum, I mean really it takes you all to correct me? I just had a question bout something I thought would be worth exploreing. So what if I had to use the incorrect term to try and explain what I meant.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
Well thx for the bumps fellas, you can all get back to your circle jerk now and I'll keep my post too other forums.
I can only guess by "bar" you mean halfshaft.
By "newer joint style" you're referring to constant velocity joints.
By "transaxle" you mean differential.
And I don't know WTF you think a hub is.
If you really think you'll get treated more gently on any other car forum, then I welcome you to jump over onto HondaTech and see how quickly those wolves tear you apart. (trust me, the moderators here are MUCH less tolerant)
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Even if they could be made to work, what's the advantage?
Last edited by Mike Ward; Jan 26, 2012 at 08:15 PM.
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Ah- If that's what he meant, a CV joint usually cannot accept the type of longitudinal loads that are present in they type of suspensions used on C2/C3 where the suspension member is also responsible for transmitting the torque to the wheels.
Even if they could be made to work, what's the advantage?
Even if they could be made to work, what's the advantage?
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It'd be do-able if you created a loaded upper link, probably.
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