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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Rainman,

I'm a little confused about your variac rheostat, would it be possible for you to show me what you mean on ebay? Or give a model number of what you have?

Also, how is it connected? Is the charger plugged into the variac, and the cables from the charger used to power the plating tank?

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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jnb5101
use some sort of inert filler, such as a water filled plastic bag, to displace as much of the unused space as possible.
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This is a great idea.
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Old May 16, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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Glad I ran across this thread, I have lots of plating to do, and I am planning on the Caswell kit. Lots of good info, especially about the power supplies.

Love the photos of the headlight assembly Rainman!!!

Thanks guys!!

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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mashman
Rainman,

I'm a little confused about your variac rheostat, would it be possible for you to show me what you mean on ebay? Or give a model number of what you have?

Also, how is it connected? Is the charger plugged into the variac, and the cables from the charger used to power the plating tank?

Thanks!
Here is a link to a Variac Transformer that I found. This one is a five amp model and I am not certain of its suitability for plating operations but it gives you an idea of what to look for.

http://www.temcoindustrialpower.com/...riac%2BTVT001#
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 08:56 AM
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My understanding is that the yellow chromate finish will naturally degrade just being in air over 3-5 years and become a dull zinc plated finish. Can anyone verify or debunk?
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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Hi 7T1,
A couple of years ago someone re-plated my master cylinder cap for me using the Caswell system. It turned out extremely well.
But now a few years later the 'wash' has really faded as you thought. I bought a Caswell system this past spring but haven't used it yet. When I'm finished with the phosphating and black oxide I'm doing I plan to dip the cap in the 'wash' solution and see if that brings the colors back.
What do you think?
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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Well, I have no experience with 'home' plating. But, when I was researching that possibility, I noted that there was info on the colored dicromate coating that it just "evaporated" over time. I think you are right that the resulting surface is just zinc. But, in air, that outer surface of bare zinc will turn to zinc oxide (grayish outer surface), rather than shiny, clean zinc. So, you can't just put it in another chromate dip. I think you first need to either acid dip it to clean off the oxide layer, or replate some fresh zinc on the surface...but, like I said--I have no personal experience with this.

From the research I did, it just seemed futile to go to all the trouble of creating some great [new] looking parts...only to have them fade away just due to time in the air. So, my personal choices became: 1) buy new parts and clearcoat them; 2) create a faux-plated surface with various types of paints. Below is a photo of my engine compartment. The master cylinder cover was 'new' but clearcoated; the wiper door actuator drum was faux-painted to look like yellow dichromate. The latter part can easily be recognized as being painted, by those who really know this stuff; but most folks don't know the difference.



And, as you well know, I don't plan on having my car judged for "originality"....even though it is much more 'original' (meaning that it has a high percentage of the actual parts that came with it from the factory) than MOST folks who actually receive Top-Flight NCRS awards. [I'm just sayin'.... They don't have to be parts that were original to that car for anyone to garner NCRS awards.]
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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I too was discouraged to read that plating would fade over time so I decided to go the faux finish route. Here's a couple of pictures.
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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You did an awesome job restoring those parts!!
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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 11:26 PM
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For a good 'daily driver' car, that looks pretty darn good. And, it will stay that way for many years.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 12:26 AM
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Alan 71:

No, I did not disassemble the acutator. Oddly enough, the plating and yellow chromate coating kinda do what you are talking about. The flash pics show the plating a little more uniform than they are. Since the yellow chromate dries on the parts at different rates and depending on how the part "hangs" to dry, it is a little difference on each side.

I know the NCRS guys will probably have fits about all this. I made the command decision for my restoration effort that even though lots of stuff did NOT come plated from the factory, I was going to do it just from the standpoint of protecting the parts. So, there is quite a bit of non-factory plating showing up on my Vette.

After seeing all the rust and corrosion all over everything when I took it apart, I just can't see the point of not doing it just because the factory didn't...

It's an upgrade....
Rainmaninwa,

I also am a neighbor in Wa. Monroe to be exact. I would like to come over and check out your operation. I am in the put together mode also on my 1970 vette conv. If possible my e mail wiecek@comcast.net

Thanks
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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Well I'm also a neighor I'm in N. Seattle. But as I'm Lazy I'd like to send the parts to have somebody else do them. I had some Parts done for a Motorcycle Project at a shop at Pane Field and was disapointed with the results. I'd like somebody who is Corvette resto savy. They really don't need to be local, as I'd probably ship them anyway.
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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What paint product did you use for the faux finish? How did you prepare the part for the paint
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 09:12 AM
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How do you replate a wiper vacuum cannister, to keep the solution from getting inside the can?
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 11:00 AM
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Hi JE,
Since the body of the actuator should be sealed, (if the crimp is still good), I plan on plugging the 2 nipples to keep the solution out.

As far as a paint product... there are several possibilities... there's now a gold cad product in a single can, and there's the Eastwood system which is 4 different cans, or you can come up with your own combination.
I used silver, copper, blue, and green. I think the trick is to use as little paint as possible. I first spray the actuator with silver, then dust on the copper in most but not all areas, then in just a few places the blue, then in just a couple of places the green, and then back to just a tiny bit of silver in a few places. You actually want a 'blotchy' look
The idea is to have a very varied color that matches the rainbow seen in the actual 'wash'.
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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Thanks for the reply Alan. Who makes the single can yellow cad product.

Thanks
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 03:34 PM
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FWIW, I used Dupli-Color GOLD!!! on my quadrajet's throttle linkage that looked pretty chewed up. It's not a great match for gold cad but if you're just looking for something nice that will last...



Someday, when I have more $$ and more space I'd like to get into plating as well.
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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I used the Eastwood cad system. Like Alan says it is a 4 color process.
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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Hi Jim,
I not positive, but try:

Branden Enterprises
PO Box 511 Trevose, PA. 19053-0511
215-327-4926

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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 07:34 AM
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HI Guys,

Do any of the forum members do this off to the side? I have alot of parts that need this.

Thanks Again

Mark
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