1972 Stamp pad pictures
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From: Sun Lakes Arizona
1972 Stamp pad pictures
I am looking for pictures of the stamp pad of 1972 Corvettes. Preferably pads of cars around production #23822.
Your help will be most appreciated.
Thanks.
Your help will be most appreciated.
Thanks.
Burning Brakes
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Most of us are reluctant to post a picture of our own stamp pad . The reason being that all the armchair experts will tear it apart just for sport.
Most don't mind posting pictures that they find on the net somewhere of one that they don't own .
Just search ( stamp Pad ) and you will see the "experts" in action!
Bill
Most don't mind posting pictures that they find on the net somewhere of one that they don't own .
Just search ( stamp Pad ) and you will see the "experts" in action!
Bill
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Looks like somebody's trying to take a run at my Mr. Nasty title. 
For the OP- Assuming your request is legitimate and you're not trying to counterfeit anything, seeing pictures of other people's stamp pads won't help much even if the cars are close in VIN number to yours. The actual VIN stamping might be similar, but the pad surface and the engine machine code stamping would more than likely have no resemblance.
Why not tell us what you're trying to achieve?
For the OP- Assuming your request is legitimate and you're not trying to counterfeit anything, seeing pictures of other people's stamp pads won't help much even if the cars are close in VIN number to yours. The actual VIN stamping might be similar, but the pad surface and the engine machine code stamping would more than likely have no resemblance.
Why not tell us what you're trying to achieve?
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Looks like somebody's trying to take a run at my Mr. Nasty title.
For the OP- Assuming your request is legitimate and you're not trying to counterfeit anything, seeing pictures of other people's stamp pads won't help much even if the cars are close in VIN number to yours. The actual VIN stamping might be similar, but the pad surface and the engine machine code stamping would more than likely have no resemblance.
Why not tell us what you're trying to achieve?
For the OP- Assuming your request is legitimate and you're not trying to counterfeit anything, seeing pictures of other people's stamp pads won't help much even if the cars are close in VIN number to yours. The actual VIN stamping might be similar, but the pad surface and the engine machine code stamping would more than likely have no resemblance.
Why not tell us what you're trying to achieve?
I would like to compare the pad surface (broach marks) and character font of mine with others. I understand the engine code will more then likely be different.
The numbers on my pad are: 12S523822 V0421CKY
The serial number matches the s/n on the transmission tail.
Just curious as to the appearance of mine vs others of similar build date.
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If you're determined to compare engine plant stampings and pad surfaces, look for identical engine options using the three digit suffixes AND assembled on the same dates. Those usually show similar traits.
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You would do better to post a photo of your engine pad and ask for input from the CF about its 'validity'. Of course, you need to be prepared that some will say that your pad is "too smooth", because it doesn't show broach chatter marks....even though a freshly ground broach bar will have NO chatter marks (or vice versa). Some will say that it is 'obviously' an original pad stamping; others will state that it is an 'obvious' counterfeit effort.
Point being, that you will have to review the input that you get and take it for what it is.....nothing more that OPINIONS--exactly what you asked for. Don't get upset; don't get depressed; no one here is a wizard with the ability to discern "absolute truth".
So, post a pic [if you dare] and see what folks have to say. That's a much more straight-forward approach than asking others to "show you their's".
Point being, that you will have to review the input that you get and take it for what it is.....nothing more that OPINIONS--exactly what you asked for. Don't get upset; don't get depressed; no one here is a wizard with the ability to discern "absolute truth".
So, post a pic [if you dare] and see what folks have to say. That's a much more straight-forward approach than asking others to "show you their's".
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Hi Jerry,
I'll post a picture of my 71 base motor's pad. I REALIZE yours is a 72, but I think the picture shows a pretty typical pad.
It's a 46k car and the pad wasn't ever really rusty; so the definition of stamping, and broach marks, is pretty original.
Regards,
Alan
I'll post a picture of my 71 base motor's pad. I REALIZE yours is a 72, but I think the picture shows a pretty typical pad.
It's a 46k car and the pad wasn't ever really rusty; so the definition of stamping, and broach marks, is pretty original.
Regards,
Alan
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Hi Jerry,
Now that I posted the picture I could flip back and forth between them.
Notice the difference in the zeros and the Cs in the engine I.D. codes.
That certainly is an example of why seeing stamps from cars just before, and just after, is so good!!!
Regards,
Alan
Now that I posted the picture I could flip back and forth between them.
Notice the difference in the zeros and the Cs in the engine I.D. codes.
That certainly is an example of why seeing stamps from cars just before, and just after, is so good!!!
Regards,
Alan
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I believe there are three different styles of zero's for c-3's: One round, one oval, and the third almost a square.
Attached are pictures of verified original pads. Note the different styles of zero's.
Your comment about seeing stamp pads just before and just after is my point exactly.
Are there others that would share a picture or two?
Attached are pictures of verified original pads. Note the different styles of zero's.
Your comment about seeing stamp pads just before and just after is my point exactly.
Are there others that would share a picture or two?
Last edited by Jerry's aclt1; Apr 15, 2012 at 05:20 PM.
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You may want to review this thread. Some info on stamp pads, LT1.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...post1579967323
Rowdy Rat seems to have access to photos and some historic info, he may be able to help you out?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...post1579967323
Rowdy Rat seems to have access to photos and some historic info, he may be able to help you out?
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I beleive that the same tool that stamped the motor at St. Louis also was then used on the transmission. So a more important thing to check is the font / spacing between these 2 sets of numbers on the same car.
Since restamping the cast aluminum trans housing is impossible in my openion w/o it being obivious.
So if the motor pad looks identical to the trans stamp, that is a positive result.
Good Luck with you search.
David
Since restamping the cast aluminum trans housing is impossible in my openion w/o it being obivious.
So if the motor pad looks identical to the trans stamp, that is a positive result.
Good Luck with you search.
David
Last edited by dmayhew; Apr 15, 2012 at 09:24 PM.
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The gang holder used for the pad stamp was dumped and reloaded with the appropriate date characters each and every day. The style of 0 seen on Feb 07 is not necessarily going to be the same 0 used on Feb 08, never mind March, April etc.
The engine built on April 21st and the one on Feb 7th are both CKY suffix, but the May 11th engine is a CKW which means that a completely different stamp holder was used. This virtually guarantees that no individual characters are going to 'match' between the two. The CKW engine cannot then be compared to yours. The probability that the CKY suffix stamp characters were the same ones used on Feb 07 and April 21 is very low.
You need to find more CKY engines built around April 21st irrespective of car VIN or date built.
BTW- I know who owns the VIN 22917 car, no question there. The CKY car with VIN 15197 has been for sale for an extended period and at $120K, will probably remain that way for a while. The seller makes no claim of it being the original stamp pad, simply numbers matching.
If you really want to get into pad authentication, best contact Al Grenning for the heavy duty detective stuff.
