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Old Apr 24, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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While doing a compression test on my 79 today I noticed that someone had hacked off part of my front vent tube. Then when locking my throttle linkage open I noticed that gas was flowing over the top and down the front of the carb. In fact it does it every time I operate the linkage! This is with the car not running of course, at least I sure hope it's only when the car is not running. Any ideas on why it would do this?


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Bad needle valve seal, most likely. There are other possibilities, of course; but most all of them would required the removal/disassembly of the carb.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 04:10 AM
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Bad needle valve seal, most likely. There are other possibilities, of course; but most all of them would required the removal/disassembly of the carb.
Thanks 7T1vette, it's good to have a place to start.

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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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Bad needle valve seal, most likely. There are other possibilities, of course; but most all of them would required the removal/disassembly of the carb.
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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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Carb is flooding.
Here in NJ, where they add ethanol (good for the ADM stockholders, at least) and who knows what else to the gasoline, the plastic floats don't last for long. I had one last only five months before it got heavy and sank. I changed over to a brass float, thinking it would be impervious to the fuel additives. I know Lars doesn't like the brass floats, but it's better than changing them constantly.
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Based on the appearance of the carb in the photo, you have a commercially rebuilt carb. It is likely to have at least a dozen internal problems and issues, several of which can contribute to the flooding issue: I doubt you only have one problem in there... You can drop me a request for my "Commercially Rebuilt Q-Jet Issues" paper if you'd lke to get an oversight of the possible problems.

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Based on the appearance of the carb in the photo, you have a commercially rebuilt carb. It is likely to have at least a dozen internal problems and issues, several of which can contribute to the flooding issue: I doubt you only have one problem in there... You can drop me a request for my "Commercially Rebuilt Q-Jet Issues" paper if you'd lke to get an oversight of the possible problems.

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Thanks Lars. E-Mail sent.

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Old Apr 25, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Zorro O
While doing a compression test on my 79 today I noticed that someone had hacked off part of my front vent tube. Then when locking my throttle linkage open I noticed that gas was flowing over the top and down the front of the carb. In fact it does it every time I operate the linkage! This is with the car not running of course, at least I sure hope it's only when the car is not running. Any ideas on why it would do this?


Are you sure the fuel is overflowing the top of the vent-tube, and not merely being shot out the accelerator-pump nozzes? (as it should)

If your car is not running, fuel is not being pumped into the carburetor, so there should be no way it would be bubbling out the top of the vent-tube.
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Uhhhh....the fuel pump will continue to shoot fuel to the carb as long as the needle valve is "open". So, if it doesn't seal well, and you rev it up [to make the fuel pump work harder], it belches the excess out the vent.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Uhhhh....the fuel pump will continue to shoot fuel to the carb as long as the needle valve is "open". So, if it doesn't seal well, and you rev it up [to make the fuel pump work harder], it belches the excess out the vent.


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In fact it does it every time I operate the linkage! This is with the car not running of course, at least I sure hope it's only when the car is not running. Any ideas on why it would do this?
Unless he has an electric fuel-pump cranking away even with the ignition off, and without any fuel-return to the tank, there should not be any additional fuel flowing to the carburetor if the engine is not running.
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Originally Posted by bobbarry
Are you sure the fuel is overflowing the top of the vent-tube, and not merely being shot out the accelerator-pump nozzes? (as it should)

If your car is not running, fuel is not being pumped into the carburetor, so there should be no way it would be bubbling out the top of the vent-tube.
Thanks bobbarry.
The vent tube is the only place on the front of the carb, I'm sure it is not leaking from. The fuel leaks when I operate the linkage. That would mean it would have all the gas that is in the float bowl plus when the float drops it would get a little more from any under pressure between the pump and carb if any. When I checked out the plugs when doing a compression test they looked black and wet. I had thought oil, but when I looked this morning they were dry and black. must have been unburned gas. At this point I think I will just get it off the car, before it burns my house down!

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OK, OK....I read too quickly to catch what is written, sometimes. :o

So, if fuel isn't being pumped to the carb, and the only 'action' is exercising the linkage, then, the accelerator pump must be sending fuel where it doesn't belong. The only 'exit path' from the accel pump chamber should be the fuel discharge openings in the primary venturi. But, there must be another path that pressurized fuel is taking. Removal and disassembly would seem to be the only course of action.
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So if a commercially rebuilt carb is going to be a mess, what is the alternative?
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Torkman
So if a commercially rebuilt carb is going to be a mess, what is the alternative?
Find someone who will do a soft-part rebuild of the carb you've got, or send it to Lars or Oles Carb in San Bruno.

I'd be willing to help people go through stock carb rebuilds if they're in my area.
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