When electronics= mechanics....and.....
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From: Orange Park Florida
When electronics= mechanics....and.....
Even I don't believe what I just been through, and I lived it....so I make it really short....this saga been going on for months....
short form 200 4r no lockup, not manual, not computer (MAP L98 setup), nothing, always no lockup....
tried, solenoid, no go, tried clicking it manually with rear in air, engine running or just ignition on and still....clicked like mad every time, pulled the TC and replaced it AND the stupid O ringy doo on the end of the shaft....
no go, worked fine for about 2-3 days...no lockup, found the ****ing brake switch that dropped the 12 volts of the + side to the solenoid was not not there, sometimes, the ~5 y/o brake light switch failed on the secondary control side....put in a relay to open circuit to tranny lockup when light were lit in rear....thought THAT fixed it......proved that one up in the air, DVM all hooked up and ****....dash apart, **** everywhere, put all the **** back together, and think it's fine.....
go to my welder buddy's place to help him build a major BBQ on his back deck, car is STILL not locking up with the computer, just with manual/electrical control.....
at this point I seriously wondering WTF land I live in.....think it must be Californica, NO other logic comes to mind.....
I just sat there for a couple daze thinking....and driving with the antiquated computer scanner, noting that Vehicle speed is VERY erratic like the damn wiring is bad from the sender to the computer.....
I go nuckin futz with the DVM and found a bad connection, open coil in the damn aftermarket sending unit....ok so open coil/heat/vibration/intermittent operation computer going NUTZ end of story....new sender is up from 80 bux back in '97 to about 135 on ebay today, it's a aftermarket thingy 4 pulses per rev of the cable....I setting here the last few daze with the *** end in the air, and running speed checks.....fix the coil connection, not once but 3X, seal with RTV, and sometimes it works....put the SOB back together TWICE....and on the road, it ****s UP, yet again......
NOW 2 daze ago I gut up and am ROCKET PISSED, I tear that ****er apart yet again and this time focus in on the mechanical side of things....
so it seems that a piece of nylon holding the rotating magnet was broken in the middle, allowing the magnet to turn or not, depending on the will of the wisp......so some JB WELD cured that ****er over night, and yesterday AM I assembled the car for what BETTER be a LONG TIME.....
and today, it's fine.....
Freeking failures/RANTS, I will FIND YOUR ***, I have never let any God DAMNED piece of machinery beat me YET you lousey POS.....:g urney:
sorry for the rant, longer than I thought, just pissed....
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short form 200 4r no lockup, not manual, not computer (MAP L98 setup), nothing, always no lockup....
tried, solenoid, no go, tried clicking it manually with rear in air, engine running or just ignition on and still....clicked like mad every time, pulled the TC and replaced it AND the stupid O ringy doo on the end of the shaft....
no go, worked fine for about 2-3 days...no lockup, found the ****ing brake switch that dropped the 12 volts of the + side to the solenoid was not not there, sometimes, the ~5 y/o brake light switch failed on the secondary control side....put in a relay to open circuit to tranny lockup when light were lit in rear....thought THAT fixed it......proved that one up in the air, DVM all hooked up and ****....dash apart, **** everywhere, put all the **** back together, and think it's fine.....
go to my welder buddy's place to help him build a major BBQ on his back deck, car is STILL not locking up with the computer, just with manual/electrical control.....
at this point I seriously wondering WTF land I live in.....think it must be Californica, NO other logic comes to mind.....
I just sat there for a couple daze thinking....and driving with the antiquated computer scanner, noting that Vehicle speed is VERY erratic like the damn wiring is bad from the sender to the computer.....
I go nuckin futz with the DVM and found a bad connection, open coil in the damn aftermarket sending unit....ok so open coil/heat/vibration/intermittent operation computer going NUTZ end of story....new sender is up from 80 bux back in '97 to about 135 on ebay today, it's a aftermarket thingy 4 pulses per rev of the cable....I setting here the last few daze with the *** end in the air, and running speed checks.....fix the coil connection, not once but 3X, seal with RTV, and sometimes it works....put the SOB back together TWICE....and on the road, it ****s UP, yet again......
NOW 2 daze ago I gut up and am ROCKET PISSED, I tear that ****er apart yet again and this time focus in on the mechanical side of things....
so it seems that a piece of nylon holding the rotating magnet was broken in the middle, allowing the magnet to turn or not, depending on the will of the wisp......so some JB WELD cured that ****er over night, and yesterday AM I assembled the car for what BETTER be a LONG TIME.....
and today, it's fine.....
Freeking failures/RANTS, I will FIND YOUR ***, I have never let any God DAMNED piece of machinery beat me YET you lousey POS.....:g urney:
sorry for the rant, longer than I thought, just pissed....
__________________
"Hell, there are no rules here ... we're trying to accomplish something." Thomas Edison
I have a little list, let ALL of them be MIST......
I love how Progressives want to have Darwinism taught in schools but denied as a reality in life.
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Burning Brakes
Joined: May 2008
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From: Middleburg Florida
Um, Gene, what the hell are you talking about?? What "sending unit" are you talking about in the lockup circuit? And what rotating magnet? Where the hell did that come from? Sorry, but I can't follow you on this one buddy...
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From: Plano TX
I'm guessing VSS, the vehicle speed sensor. Goes into the tranny and sends a number of pulses for each driveshaft revolution. If the computer doesn't see the correct speed it won't lock the converter.
And yes, Gene needs some interpretation sometimes.
And yes, Gene needs some interpretation sometimes.
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Team Owner
Joined: Jul 1999
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From: Orange Park Florida
Z weed got it, there is a aftermarket adapter that goes between the tranny output where the speedo cable would normally go, and so in there is this sending unit...4 pulses per rotation, sending a sine wave to the computer....
the rest is pisstory....
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