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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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I have a Holley double pumper on a 454 in my 68.

The carb has been wired open. It does not have an electronic choke on it nor is there a manual set-up.

Any recommendations on repairing this or get a rebuilt carb. I will try to get a photo tomorrow.

The 454 is built to 468 and I am open to suggestions on a carb.

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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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Certainly appears the Holley is a mess and probably not worth the $$ to make it work. No choke, wired, probably ill tuned for your car. Two real choices: A well tuned Q-Jet or a Holley will both work. Do forum searches, talk to clubs by you, go to car shows and look at BBC's or Vettes to help you make a decision.

Both types of carbs are capable of supplying what is needed to make the machine run well and hard. I would look at one of the speciality carb houses; like SMI, JET, Carb shop or others and have a carb build to your cars specs. The cost will end up being the same since you have to get one anyway.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 11:38 PM
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Certainly appears the Holley is a mess and probably not worth the $$ to make it work. No choke, wired, probably ill tuned for your car. Two real choices: A well tuned Q-Jet or a Holley will both work. Do forum searches, talk to clubs by you, go to car shows and look at BBC's or Vettes to help you make a decision.

Both types of carbs are capable of supplying what is needed to make the machine run well and hard. I would look at one of the speciality carb houses; like SMI, JET, Carb shop or others and have a carb build to your cars specs. The cost will end up being the same since you have to get one anyway.
Thank you sir. I was looking at the rebuilt carbs on Summits site. Thanks for the other choices.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 11:56 PM
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I would first ask if the car runs correctly. I assume you meant that the choke plate is wired open. If the car runs OK, you can remove the choke plate - many don't use a choke. OR you could have the choke parts replaced to make it function, and put a rebuild kit in it to freshen it up. If you buy a new or rebuilt carb, it will still need some tuning to get the best performance. So either way you will need someone to tune the carb. Find a good mechanic and let him give advise, or do it yourself, ask Lars for his paper on tuning.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 12:17 AM
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Thanks 74. I sent him an email. I appreciate everyone counsel.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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The Holley, if it's the right size and type for your engine configuration, can be tuned and set up to run just great without the choke system. I would suggest removing the entire choke system and properly setting up the carb - I think you'll find this to work just fine. If you send me the carb, I can do that for you and test it, if you're hesitant to do it yourself.

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Part Number 4781-5

Date number 0358

Translates to a Holley 850?

Please excuse those horrid valve covers which came with the car.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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http://www.holley.com/data/TechServi...%20Listing.pdf

Scroll down until you come to your carb's LIST number (R4781-5) and you will see detailed info on your carb.


Keep the shiny side up!
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Originally Posted by lars
The Holley, if it's the right size and type for your engine configuration, can be tuned and set up to run just great without the choke system. I would suggest removing the entire choke system and properly setting up the carb - I think you'll find this to work just fine. If you send me the carb, I can do that for you and test it, if you're hesitant to do it yourself.

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Jer.....You should jump all over this. Lars rebuilt a carb for me over 4 years ago and it still runs perfect.

You haven't spray bombed those covers yet?
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 09:54 PM
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Jer.....You should jump all over this. Lars rebuilt a carb for me over 4 years ago and it still runs perfect.

You haven't spray bombed those covers yet?
Good advice from a good man Dave. Thank you sir.

I have some nice finned valve covers picked out if this engine turns out to be street-able.

Hoping to have it down on all four tires soon.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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holley also has an excellent rebuilding program. Check it out, from what I know they come back like new.
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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My 69 has not had a choke since 1971. Several were just locked open, some didn't have a choke at all. Never had any problems. The Demon on there now has no choke horn at all. The 2x4 Edelbrock setup they were blocked open.
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there is nothing wrong there,whoever had it just wired the choke open so it couldn't close on its own.let lars set it up. all holley will do is put it back to stock, Lars can set it up for your car.
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From what I see in your first picture, you already have the manual choke mechanism on the side of the carb that will allow you to install a cable for the manual choke. If you don't care for a manual choke, that mechanism can be removed and an electric choke installed in its place. Everything is sold at Summit Racing.
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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I say remove the choke mechanisms .make sure the carb has the correct jetting and other parts.get rebuild kit from holley .set the blades to expose .020 of the idle slots.
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