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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
This thread is getting pretty funny.

Going into the third day, and the OP is gone, he never stated whether he had a solid lifter cam or a hydraulic lifter cam, but we got all sorts of ways to adjust it....
Are you going to educate us then how various methods to adjust valves that have been presented here are strictly for either hydraulic or solid lifters?
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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They are hydraulic. Instead of being sarcastic maybe we should have sent a pm. Just pulled a 48 hour shift at work and slept for awhile before checking the forum.

Second note. What I was asking originally was do I need to retighten the valves after rotating motor a few times. The rockers seem to be slightly looser than when I originally tightened?
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Originally Posted by My1968Vette
They are hydraulic. Instead of being sarcastic maybe we should have sent a pm. Just pulled a 48 hour shift at work and slept for awhile before checking the forum.

Second note. What I was asking originally was do I need to retighten the valves after rotating motor a few times. The rockers seem to be slightly looser than when I originally tightened?
Contrary to what MANY people suggest, when I adjust hydraulic lifters, I do a rough adjustment, then I do it with the engine up to temperature, and running. Back the adjusting off slowly until you can hear the lifter "click" then tighten down the adjusting nut 3/4-1 full turn.

Since some people want to know how to set "solids", rotate the engine until the cam is at base circle for the cylinder you're working on, and adjust accordingly. Since I haven't adjusted a solid cam since the early 70s, I may not be totally accurate, but I seem to recall the lash was 0.028" on the intakes, and 0.032 on the exhausts....

Better yet, consult a shop manual for the specifics, which escape me for the moment, but if you have both #1 and #6 clylinders on TDC, you can adjust half the valves, and rotate the engine one turn clockwise (as facing the engine) and adjust the other half....


Originally Posted by Doug1
Are you going to educate us then how various methods to adjust valves that have been presented here are strictly for either hydraulic or solid lifters?
Try posts 7 and 8 for openers....

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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Contrary to what MANY people suggest, when I adjust hydraulic lifters, I do a rough adjustment, then I do it with the engine up to temperature, and running. Back the adjusting off slowly until you can hear the lifter "click" then tighten down the adjusting nut 3/4-1 full turn.

Since some people want to know how to set "solids", rotate the engine until the cam is at base circle for the cylinder you're working on, and adjust accordingly. Since I haven't adjusted a solid cam since the early 70s, I may not be totally accurate, but I seem to recall the lash was 0.028" on the intakes, and 0.032 on the exhausts....

Better yet, consult a shop manual for the specifics, which escape me for the moment, but if you have both #1 and #6 clylinders on TDC, you can adjust half the valves, and rotate the engine one turn clockwise (as facing the engine) and adjust the other half....




Try posts 7 and 8 for openers....
I didn't read any posts that would contradict anything you just wrote....show me where the gross errors are please.
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Originally Posted by Doug1
I didn't read any posts that would contradict anything you just wrote....show me where the gross errors are please.
The "gross errors" you seem to be referring to, started right at the beginning. The OP didn't specify whether he had solid lifters or hydraulics, and while trying to be truly helpful, people immediately started offering methods to make adjustments.

Solid lifters need "lash" (mechanical clearance to allow for heat expansion in the valve train), while hydraulics need "pre-load", for essentially the same reason, but in a different manner. These adjustments are completely different, and unless you initially specify what type of lifter you're dealing with, the discussion loses meaning, and/or can send the OP off in an incorrect direction.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
The "gross errors" you seem to be referring to, started right at the beginning. The OP didn't specify whether he had solid lifters or hydraulics, and while trying to be truly helpful, people immediately started offering methods to make adjustments.

Solid lifters need "lash" (mechanical clearance to allow for heat expansion in the valve train), while hydraulics need "pre-load", for essentially the same reason, but in a different manner. These adjustments are completely different, and unless you initially specify what type of lifter you're dealing with, the discussion loses meaning, and/or can send the OP off in an incorrect direction.
yeah, I understand now the difference, slight, but difference none the less. thanks
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Originally Posted by My1968Vette
What I was asking originally was do I need to retighten the valves after rotating motor a few times. The rockers seem to be slightly looser than when I originally tightened?
That's normal. If you put a 1/2 turn to 3/4 turn pre-load on them, and they are now loose after rotating the engine over, that's completely normal: The oil is simply bleeding out a little without the engine running with pressure. Leave it and fire it up.

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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lars
That's normal. If you put a 1/2 turn to 3/4 turn pre-load on them, and they are now loose after rotating the engine over, that's completely normal: The oil is simply bleeding out a little without the engine running with pressure. Leave it and fire it up.

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Thank you Lars for the response. Will fire it up today and see how she runs.
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