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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 09:46 AM
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OK, I have rebuilt my carb again and still runs rich. It is a 76 vette carb # 17056206. It has 76 jets in it and I'm thinking its to much. And now it looks like the power piston is stuck. I know I need to take it apart and replace the plastic retainer but does anyone know the right jet size before I take it back apart? And if I change the jets to smaller ones should I change the 44 26 tip metering rods?
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77 is the correct number download this document and scroll down

http://www.corvettefaq.com/c3/QJetTuningPaper.doc
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If you're running rich, you have problems not related to the jets. You need the 77 jets in that carb for it to run right. The rods should be 48's (48K). There is no need to replace the plastic power piston retainer - it has no effect on performance or operation, unless it is broken in a way which jams the power piston.

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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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How do you know she's rich? If she smells rich at idle, your float could be maladjusted.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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Lars, I gave the paper a quick read and that is some great stuff! I have been thinking that I would really like to know about tuning Q-jets and tihis will be the ticket, thanks for taking the time to put this together.
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I don't show that I have sent you a paper... Don't use any of my papers you find posted on the Internet, including the ones posted here on this Forum: Those papers are outdated and obsolete - don't use them. For current, valid papers, e-mail me directly a request for the papers you want.

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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Thanks I appreciate the help. Found a carb shop close by and they said the same thing. The 77 jets and 48k rods are right. But I have 76 jets in carb. Took the air horn back off and one of the metering rod arms was bent down. Bent it back in place and polished the power valve assembly to a mirror finish, recommended by shop to prevent sticking. Put everything back together and when for test ride. What a deference. I also tapped the air horn so I can adjust the auxiliary for power valve. Can't final tune car yet until MSD distributor comes in hopefully tomorrow. Old one just plain worn out. Thanks again.
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Yes. When the factory stuff is set up correctly, these cars will run and drive well. You don't have to drop a dumptruck load of cash into them .
You can spend a bunch of money on trick parts, and make the car DIFFERENT. But it's not so easy to make the car BETTER.
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Found a carb shop close by and they said the same thing. The 77 jets and 48k rods are right. But I have 76 jets in carb.
I wouldn't worry about a 1-size jet discrepancy. Your 44K rods are going to run you a little rich at cruise, but you can offset that by running the APT setting a little deeper. If I were rebuilding the carb for you, I'd put the "correct" parts in it, but for all practical purposes, your carb is going to run fine as jetted, providing you have all other parameters setup up correctly.

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I did run the APT deeper. I'm at 2 turns from bottom now. Put in MSD distributer tonight and hope to start it up and finish tuning tomorrow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I was getting to much advance at idle before.
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Hey Lars, I was looking at the link that Melwff posted, if that is not correct info I will email you for the correct info. I see you also have timing info. I want my 70 454 to run correctly. Thanks
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Originally Posted by DM76
I did run the APT deeper. I'm at 2 turns from bottom now. Put in MSD distributer tonight and hope to start it up and finish tuning tomorrow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I was getting to much advance at idle before.
Could you go into a little more detail about "getting to much advance at idle"? How much advance were you getting? It's kind of unusual to see a distributor that is "worn out", they only spin at half the engine speed.

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Hey Lars, I was looking at the link that Melwff posted, if that is not correct info I will email you for the correct info. I see you also have timing info. I want my 70 454 to run correctly. Thanks
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