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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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im looking for a new starter and want some input. i would like something lighter and more compact. i was going to do a search but sometimes new stuff comes along, thanks
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I'm using a stock starter from a '98 Tahoe
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You have about 90 choices which can be narrowed down by filtering

http://www.summitracing.com/search/y...eyword=starter
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by qwank
I'm using a stock starter from a '98 Tahoe
Smart choice, and relatively inexpensive compared to the modified high priced import 4 cylinder starters pushed on the internet by mail order houses.....

available at every auto parts store too........
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by qwank
I'm using a stock starter from a '98 Tahoe
same here, lightweight, readily available, gear reduction,,, probably will need some shorter bolts. works great.
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i take it that the tahoe starter would use the bolts for that year tahoe?
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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No, by 1998 the bolts were metric.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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I haven't used it yet, but I just bought one on eBay, skipwhiteperformance high York mini started. 3hp, 68$. + 45$ shipping to Canada. Took 3 days, just picked it up
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 10:40 PM
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I Forget which bolts I used, but they were in stock at the dealer. I had to grind down the starter housing a little to fit in the clutch inspection cover.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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for pre 1983 you would use standard bolts thread .buy a grade 8 3/8 bolt 1" longer then the starter housing mount .that will give you room for starter shims .
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 01:07 AM
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Late model GM metric starters use 10mm bolts about same as 3/8 SAE so they interchange. You need to know your flywheel ring gear tooth count, 10.5" clutch is 153 tooth, 11" clutch/TH400 168 teeth. One of my favorites is a 1988 and later C4 gear reduction DENSO starter, OEM GM but, may cost some money and only for a 10.5" 153 tooth flywheel. CVR makes a good starter, Hitachi also watch out for the Chinese junk out there and make sure it is a full roller bearing starter, some use a bushing on the drive end, and will slowly wear in use, causing flywheel ring gear destruction. Budget around $175-200 for a quality part.

Stock GM starter mounting bolts have a knurl on them to prevent misalignment of the starter, use a standard non-knurled bolt and you risk mis-alignment and flywheel ring gear damage.
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I disagree that 3/8" and 10 mm bolts interchange. Using 3/8" bolts will leave 0.5 mm of slop. That's enough to misalign the starter.

GMPP makes special bolts with a 10 mm shoulder and 3/8 threads. Or you can do what I did: Insert thin wall brass tubing to remove the slop. Found it at the HW store.
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What flywheel does the Tahoe starter work with (153 or 168)?
The 153 starter has the straight across bolt pattern and the 168 starter is staggered.
Thanks!
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 10:42 AM
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I got one of those Summit mini-starters when they 1st came out. One of the best mods I ever made.
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Dunno about the Tahoe, but a 1995 K2500 truck w/ 7.4 liter V8 has the staggered pattern. That's what I use.
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I'm running the 153 tooth flywheel so the staggered starter is out for me.
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GM makes starter bolts to adapt these mini-starters to the Gen I small blocks. These are the bolts for the 153 tooth flywheel starters.



The short one is PN 14037733 and the long one is 12338064. They have 10mm shanks with 3/8" threads.
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Originally Posted by Kid Vette
GM makes starter bolts to adapt these mini-starters to the Gen I small blocks. These are the bolts for the 153 tooth flywheel starters.



The short one is PN 14037733 and the long one is 12338064. They have 10mm shanks with 3/8" threads.
WOW! maybe those will work to properly locate a 10mm hole but, WTF do I know
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I'm pretty sure those are the bolts I used
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I bought a cheap Hitachi style mini starter off of eBay about 7 years ago for my 64 SS. It has performed flawlessly. The gear drive starters sound different than the stock starter. It sounds more like a Chrysler product starting. If it failed today, I more than got my moneys worth. I think I paid $59 for it.

I bought another cheap starter off eBay for my Vette. It is the late GM mini starter style. I'll see how that one goes.
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