Courtesy light circuit
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Courtesy light circuit
Okay guys, I purchased the alarm switch and installed it on my 1972 tonight. It did not come up all roses. I blew a fuse and the courtesy lamps went out too. I replaced the fuse, but the circuit is still dead. I am thinking I need to remove the alarm switch and start over. Your input is appreciated.
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QUESTIONS:
Is there any special reason you are wanting to use this alarm system???
(You are aware that if you have it working and energized...and the alarm goes off...it will drain your battery) It is like an 8-track tape player in a Compact Disc world.
I have upgraded alarm systems like this to the newer style so it will at least shut off the horn...and still disable the starter.
Do you have a wiring diagram???
Have you tested the horn to make sure it works????
The flasher, relay and other wiring connections...are they clean and in good condition???
DUB
Is there any special reason you are wanting to use this alarm system???
(You are aware that if you have it working and energized...and the alarm goes off...it will drain your battery) It is like an 8-track tape player in a Compact Disc world.
I have upgraded alarm systems like this to the newer style so it will at least shut off the horn...and still disable the starter.
Do you have a wiring diagram???
Have you tested the horn to make sure it works????
The flasher, relay and other wiring connections...are they clean and in good condition???
DUB
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QUESTIONS:
Is there any special reason you are wanting to use this alarm system???
(You are aware that if you have it working and energized...and the alarm goes off...it will drain your battery) It is like an 8-track tape player in a Compact Disc world.
I have upgraded alarm systems like this to the newer style so it will at least shut off the horn...and still disable the starter.
Do you have a wiring diagram???
Have you tested the horn to make sure it works????
The flasher, relay and other wiring connections...are they clean and in good condition???
DUB
Is there any special reason you are wanting to use this alarm system???
(You are aware that if you have it working and energized...and the alarm goes off...it will drain your battery) It is like an 8-track tape player in a Compact Disc world.
I have upgraded alarm systems like this to the newer style so it will at least shut off the horn...and still disable the starter.
Do you have a wiring diagram???
Have you tested the horn to make sure it works????
The flasher, relay and other wiring connections...are they clean and in good condition???
DUB
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Take a look at wiring and connections at the door switches. Take the rear wheels off and take off the access plate located in the wheel-well or u may get lucky and just remove switchs and see if wiring comes out with the switch.
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QUESTIONS:
Is there any special reason you are wanting to use this alarm system???
(You are aware that if you have it working and energized...and the alarm goes off...it will drain your battery) It is like an 8-track tape player in a Compact Disc world.
I have upgraded alarm systems like this to the newer style so it will at least shut off the horn...and still disable the starter.
Do you have a wiring diagram???
Have you tested the horn to make sure it works????
The flasher, relay and other wiring connections...are they clean and in good condition???
DUB
Is there any special reason you are wanting to use this alarm system???
(You are aware that if you have it working and energized...and the alarm goes off...it will drain your battery) It is like an 8-track tape player in a Compact Disc world.
I have upgraded alarm systems like this to the newer style so it will at least shut off the horn...and still disable the starter.
Do you have a wiring diagram???
Have you tested the horn to make sure it works????
The flasher, relay and other wiring connections...are they clean and in good condition???
DUB
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A factory upgrades system can be installed...if you choose.
But...one good thing is that I have installed the theft deterrent system for a 1986 and I actually wired in the starer enable relay and also installed a lock cylinder in the steering column that requires the correct "chip" in the key to get the car to crank.....and all done with no computer.
DUB
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I am willing to help you when you are at the car working if you can not figure it out but you will have to call me. I am not going to type for hours on what you need to check...what you may have or have not checked, etc. It would be faster when you are at the car with test light, volt/ohm meter and other tools. One thing is for sure...all contacts and or terminals in the connectors need to be clean.
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NO...the starter disable or starter enable was not available with this type of alarm system. All it does is make noise....and drain your battery if not turned off.
A factory upgrades system can be installed...if you choose.
But...one good thing is that I have installed the theft deterrent system for a 1986 and I actually wired in the starer enable relay and also installed a lock cylinder in the steering column that requires the correct "chip" in the key to get the car to crank.....and all done with no computer.
DUB
A factory upgrades system can be installed...if you choose.
But...one good thing is that I have installed the theft deterrent system for a 1986 and I actually wired in the starer enable relay and also installed a lock cylinder in the steering column that requires the correct "chip" in the key to get the car to crank.....and all done with no computer.
DUB
Also, I assume by no computer you don't mean no VATS module? Or do you have a way to match resistances to enable the starter relay that doesn't use the VATS module?
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Was there anything special needed to install the VATS lock cylinder into the steering column? I was always under the impression that the columns changed when VATS came out.
Also, I assume by no computer you don't mean no VATS module? Or do you have a way to match resistances to enable the starter relay that doesn't use the VATS module?
Also, I assume by no computer you don't mean no VATS module? Or do you have a way to match resistances to enable the starter relay that doesn't use the VATS module?
NO...the ECM is what I was referring to ( sorry for the confusion)...the VATS module was needed or the system would not work at all.
Creating an entirely new system to replace the VATS module was too costly. I probably could if I wanted to spend time I do not have on designing one.
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Major reason, the power retention feature. I really loved being able to turn off the car, finish the song I was listening to with no interruption, roll up the windows and then continue on my merry way. Also, remote keyless entry with the stock GM key fobs, which I prefer the look of compared to many. The BCM also has the VATS module, which I could incorporate at a later time if I wish, even more so that I'll be running TPI so I could actually make it fully functional.
Since the 81 already has the delayed interior lighting stuff hooking up the BCM should be pretty easy since most of the needed inputs are already in one place.
Since the 81 already has the delayed interior lighting stuff hooking up the BCM should be pretty easy since most of the needed inputs are already in one place.
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Major reason, the power retention feature. I really loved being able to turn off the car, finish the song I was listening to with no interruption, roll up the windows and then continue on my merry way. Also, remote keyless entry with the stock GM key fobs, which I prefer the look of compared to many. The BCM also has the VATS module, which I could incorporate at a later time if I wish, even more so that I'll be running TPI so I could actually make it fully functional.
Since the 81 already has the delayed interior lighting stuff hooking up the BCM should be pretty easy since most of the needed inputs are already in one place.
Since the 81 already has the delayed interior lighting stuff hooking up the BCM should be pretty easy since most of the needed inputs are already in one place.
Best of luck with it. If for some odd reason you need to have the BCM overhauled or repaired...let me know via a PM. I know a great company that can do it along with PCM's (ECM's)
DUB