'76 suddenly won't start. Won't turn over
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'76 suddenly won't start. Won't turn over
So yesterday I decided to wash the Vette and take it for a spin. The car wouldn't start. Wouldn't even try to turn over. No clicking, no noise, nothing. The lights on the dash and radio worked. It had been about a month since I drove it last, and I remembered I had a hard time getting it started, although it would eventually get going. I assumed it was the battery and decided to get a new one.
New battery goes in, starts right up. So I back it into the driveway and wash it. Then a little later I decided to take it for a spin. Again, started right up. I drove around for a while and decided to stop to grab a quick bite to eat. When I was finished I headed home. Started right up.
When I got home, I saw my bro-in-law had placed the lawnmower in the garage in such a way I couldn't pull in. So I shut off the car, got out and moved it. Got back in the car, and it hesitated a little while trying to start. But it started and I was able to pull in. So I shut the car off and tried to start it up again.
Nothing.
It's back to no noise, just the dash lights. I tried again a few hours later that night and the same thing. As if it were a dead battery. Did I get a dud, or is there something more serious I should be looking into?
New battery goes in, starts right up. So I back it into the driveway and wash it. Then a little later I decided to take it for a spin. Again, started right up. I drove around for a while and decided to stop to grab a quick bite to eat. When I was finished I headed home. Started right up.
When I got home, I saw my bro-in-law had placed the lawnmower in the garage in such a way I couldn't pull in. So I shut off the car, got out and moved it. Got back in the car, and it hesitated a little while trying to start. But it started and I was able to pull in. So I shut the car off and tried to start it up again.
Nothing.
It's back to no noise, just the dash lights. I tried again a few hours later that night and the same thing. As if it were a dead battery. Did I get a dud, or is there something more serious I should be looking into?
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I would clean the battery cable connections at the battery, the other end of the battery negative cable under the car at the frame, the other end of the positive battery cable at the solenoid and both ends of the negative jumper wire between the frame and the engine block. Also clean the rings on the other wires connected with the battery positive cable at the starter solenoid. See how it works once you have cleaned all 6 of those connections.
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I would clean the battery cable connections at the battery, the other end of the battery negative cable under the car at the frame, the other end of the positive battery cable at the solenoid and both ends of the negative jumper wire between the frame and the engine block. Also clean the rings on the other wires connected with the battery positive cable at the starter solenoid. See how it works once you have cleaned all 6 of those connections.
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Get the car started and pull the terminal wires off the battery. If the car dies your alternator is shot, if it keeps running your car is draining the battery thru a short in the wiring somewhere.
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I just went and tried again. Still no go, but I did notice my radio station appears to have reset, so it certainly looks like the battery is (mostly) dead.
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Do any of the light dim or go out when you try to crank it? It sounds like it does when you said the radio has reset. This is typically a poor connection. Simply stick a meter on the battery post, NOT THE CLAMPS, the post while someone tries to crank it. If it falls to around 10 volts or less, the battery is low. If it stays around 12 volts, it's a poor connection.
There are many checks you can do before you start throwing parts at it. Keep us posted and we'll keep helping.
There are many checks you can do before you start throwing parts at it. Keep us posted and we'll keep helping.
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Do any of the light dim or go out when you try to crank it? It sounds like it does when you said the radio has reset. This is typically a poor connection. Simply stick a meter on the battery post, NOT THE CLAMPS, the post while someone tries to crank it. If it falls to around 10 volts or less, the battery is low. If it stays around 12 volts, it's a poor connection.
There are many checks you can do before you start throwing parts at it. Keep us posted and we'll keep helping.
There are many checks you can do before you start throwing parts at it. Keep us posted and we'll keep helping.
I'm going to have to get a meter. I moved to Florida recently and some of my stuff was left behind, and I suspect that was in a box that was left because I can't find my old one.
Edit:
Just checked again now that it's dark. Brake lights work, door and light in the cargo area work, turning on the headlights lights up the dash but lights don't pop up. No dimming after any of these lights come on. Or if it is, it's so minimal I can't tell.
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I hadn't notice the lights actually go dim. They appear to stay the same brightness.
I'm going to have to get a meter. I moved to Florida recently and some of my stuff was left behind, and I suspect that was in a box that was left because I can't find my old one.
Edit:
Just checked again now that it's dark. Brake lights work, door and light in the cargo area work, turning on the headlights lights up the dash but lights don't pop up. No dimming after any of these lights come on. Or if it is, it's so minimal I can't tell.
I'm going to have to get a meter. I moved to Florida recently and some of my stuff was left behind, and I suspect that was in a box that was left because I can't find my old one.
Edit:
Just checked again now that it's dark. Brake lights work, door and light in the cargo area work, turning on the headlights lights up the dash but lights don't pop up. No dimming after any of these lights come on. Or if it is, it's so minimal I can't tell.
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I don't think it's a battery issue or a poor battery connection. I'm leaning towards the neutral switch. Is this an auto or manual? I can't see while posting. If you aren't hearing the starter solenoid clock or anything, then it's something low current and not on the high current side.
How would I test for a neutral switch, and what kind of repair is that going to be?
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It should be up above the brake pedal arm. You can test for a bad switch by just taking the two wires off and jumpering them together. Just make sure it's in neutral, brake on and clutch in when you turn the key to start. If it starts you know it's the switch. It could just need adjusted or it could be defective.
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It should be up above the brake pedal arm. You can test for a bad switch by just taking the two wires off and jumpering them together. Just make sure it's in neutral, brake on and clutch in when you turn the key to start. If it starts you know it's the switch. It could just need adjusted or it could be defective.
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