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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 06:15 PM
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While changing the differential fluid in my '75 corvette a 3 inch piece of clear vinyl tubing fell off the tip of the bottle into the differential. The feedback I've had is about 50/50 split between "don't worry about it, the gears will devour it and then just change out the fluid again" and "it's got to come out as it may cause serious damage (although no one has said what damage it may cause or how). Anybody been down this road or have a definitive answer? As you know taking the cover off the differential is a pain in the #ss but on the other hand I don't want to get into a bigger and more expensive job if damage can occur by not removing it. Your input is much appreciated. Thanks, Gary
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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I'd have to say if it's not meant to be in there, it should probably come out.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 07:54 PM
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I predict you're going to get more 50/50 votes.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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I'd say get a coat hanger and go fishing.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 11:23 PM
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I predict you're going to get more 50/50 votes.
Yea, Me too. I feel like it would fall down to the bottom and stay there causing no problem whatsoever, and since the pinion is forward and much higher it will not likely pick it up. But, If it picks the thing up and ingests it in one gulp, it could cause a problem.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 12:18 AM
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One more thought. Drain it with a hand suction pump. The plastic tip might come out or get stuck in the tube. The oil is new and if kept clean can be reused. It is worth a try. Nothing lost but some time.

Let us know how you make out.

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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 03:07 AM
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I'd use a set of mechanics fingers, you can put a slight bend in them and fish away. If that don't work try a releasable spear... oh wait that's actually work not trying to fish plastic out of your diff. Good luck.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:33 AM
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If it goes to the bottom and never gets in contact with the gears or the posi system, you will be ok. If it does get picked up it will not only break up into tiny pics but there could be melting involved and this will most likely do damage to your gears,bearings,seals, and clutches.

Though its alot of work. I would try to get it out even if that involves taking the Diff cover off.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 09:13 AM
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Over the years we have found clear tubes and the tips off the gear bottles. Some were torn up but they never bothered the gears or bearings.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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Get some forceps/hemostats and go fishing. You might get lucky.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 09:55 AM
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I'd just do a frame off.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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Thanks so much for the feedback. It seems there may not be a definitive answer. I'm not getting anywhere fishing blind so I'm getting an inspection camera so I can see inside and if I can see it I think I'll be able to remove it. I'll let you know what happens. Gary
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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I challenge the group to find any real examples of a diff actually being damaged from a plastic tube left inside.

Some of the doomsayers have overactive imaginations.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I'd just do a frame off.
Awesome Mike! Lol! I don't know that it would do any damage but I'd try to get it out through the hole. Mine was full of ultra fine metal shavings when I got it, the P.O. didnt use posi lube.

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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I challenge the group to find any real examples of a diff actually being damaged from a plastic tube left inside.

Some of the doomsayers have overactive imaginations.
Is this how things are done up north? I guess if you can't see it, it won't hurt you

75roadster, Don't be lazy, fish it out or take it apart to remove it. Do you really think it is Ok to leave in there?
What do you think will happen to the bearings and clutches once it gets chewed up and distributed through out the rear. Premature failure is premature failure plain and simple.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 76Rat
Is this how things are done up north? I guess if you can't see it, it won't hurt you

75roadster, Don't be lazy, fish it out or take it apart to remove it. Do you really think it is Ok to leave in there?
What do you think will happen to the bearings and clutches once it gets chewed up and distributed through out the rear. Premature failure is premature failure plain and simple.
Got an example or just expressing an unfounded opinion?
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I'd just do a frame off.
And Mike you don't have an over active imagination??? Frame off. Well you got a good laugh out of me with that comment. Thanks to yours. LOL.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Got an example or just expressing an unfounded opinion?
I don't have any pictures, if that's what you are asking. I usually don't take pictures of other people's screw up's, I just fix them.

Once the plastic gets chewed up enough and distributed though out the rear, it can cause hot spots in the bearings and clutches, causing premature failure. Throw some tiny plastic beads in you rear diff and let me know how you make out after a few hundred miles. Contamination is always the beginning of a failed part.

Don't get me wrong, back yard mechanics are some of my best customers. Especially internet mechanics, these guys know everything.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 04:00 PM
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I can tell you what happens in the engine oil pan and show pics. The tube gets soft since the melting point is about 300 degrees. It then slowly gets clogged in the screen of the oil pickup (partially melts into it) and starves the engine for oil. Happens on boats where a pump is used to remove oil through the dipstick.
Not sure if it could be hard enough to damage gears or bearings by jamming in between. I could see where the limited slip might get mucked up by partially melted pieces.

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I challenge the group to find any real examples of a diff actually being damaged from a plastic tube left inside.

Some of the doomsayers have overactive imaginations.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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I have to agree with mike... The chances of damage is almost 0 but it would hurt to try fishing it out or a good excuse to swap gears!
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