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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 08:45 PM
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I would not continue hitting it with a big hammer because you will eventually damage the shock mount bracket on the trailing arm. Usually in cases where people have this much difficulty removing their shock mounts, the culprit is the strut rod sleeve. Over time, the sleeve rusts to the lower shock mount, and when this happens, your options are limited and none of them are good.

You can't drill the shock mount out because there is a flat side on the shock mount that keeps it in proper position. If you round out the hole on the shock mount bracket, you'll have to get another trailing arm spindle housing. Here are your options as I see them.

Send the trailing arms in for a rebuild, and let them deal with it.

Or you can cut the strut rod off of the trailing arm, but you have to be careful not to damage the shock mount bracket. I suppose you could do that with the trailing arm on the car, but it would be easier to remove the trailing arm.

To cut the strut rod off, you need to use a small cutting wheel and make two cuts on opposite sides of the knuckle approximately 90 degrees from the rod. It's easiest to do this from the "bottom" of the shock mount bracket. Once both cuts are finished, you should be able to remove the strut rod and cut away the bushing. Once the bushing is gone, you will see the inner sleeve likely rusted to the shock mount. I don't know if you can get the sleeve off the mount or not, but if you cut the center out of the mount, you should be able to remove it from the trailing arm. Good luck.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rays699
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Attachment 47816481I installed new 17'' wheels + tires+ shocks on my 69 vette, went for a ride back at home I smoked them in the d. way, the patt. was not the same. looks like the right side of the tire at the top is out more then the left one. may be the right strut rod is lose. ever time you up grade some thing, more to fix!!!!! new strut rod?
Im not for sure about your issue with the skid marks, but I do know that if you plan on changing the struts soak the shick mount bolts and the cam bolts in penetron, buy a spare set of each and be informed that the shock mount bolts are sided in the sense that theres a left and a right, dont ask me how I found that out. Good luck.
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 07:42 PM
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I would not continue hitting it with a big hammer because you will eventually damage the shock mount bracket on the trailing arm. Usually in cases where people have this much difficulty removing their shock mounts, the culprit is the strut rod sleeve. Over time, the sleeve rusts to the lower shock mount, and when this happens, your options are limited and none of them are good.

You can't drill the shock mount out because there is a flat side on the shock mount that keeps it in proper position. If you round out the hole on the shock mount bracket, you'll have to get another trailing arm spindle housing. Here are your options as I see them.

Send the trailing arms in for a rebuild, and let them deal with it.

Or you can cut the strut rod off of the trailing arm, but you have to be careful not to damage the shock mount bracket. I suppose you could do that with the trailing arm on the car, but it would be easier to remove the trailing arm.

To cut the strut rod off, you need to use a small cutting wheel and make two cuts on opposite sides of the knuckle approximately 90 degrees from the rod. It's easiest to do this from the "bottom" of the shock mount bracket. Once both cuts are finished, you should be able to remove the strut rod and cut away the bushing. Once the bushing is gone, you will see the inner sleeve likely rusted to the shock mount. I don't know if you can get the sleeve off the mount or not, but if you cut the center out of the mount, you should be able to remove it from the trailing arm. Good luck.
I got one side done with a big fu#K HAMMER NEXT SIDE
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 08:04 PM
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I'm just starting to dive into my rear because of bad bushings and I've been following this. I might have missed it but can't the rear axle yokes throw off the rear camber as they wear?
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I got one side done with a big fu#K HAMMER NEXT SIDE
That's good news. How big was the hammer? I used a two pound on mine and was afraid to use anything bigger. I hope the next side goes better.
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 10:14 PM
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I'm just starting to dive into my rear because of bad bushings and I've been following this. I might have missed it but can't the rear axle yokes throw off the rear camber as they wear?
In many C3 rear ends (mine included) the differential yoke wears down as the the splined shaft rides on the center pin. There is a retaining clip that eventually comes off if the shaft wears far enough (about 1/8 of and inch or so). You'll know this has happened when you jack the rear of your car up and the weight of the tires pulls the yokes out about 1/4 - 3/8 inches or more and you can see the shafts. Once this happens, you need to change the yokes or the dust shield will begin rubbing against the differential case.

With the camber properly adjusted, and the weight on the car, the tires push in on the yokes. So as the yokes wear, the camber becomes more pronounced. If the shop you take your car to only aligns the front wheels, then eventually your camber would be out of tolerance. However, if they also align the rear, I would think they could compensate for the yoke wear by adjusting the cam bolt on the strut rod.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 09:17 AM
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That's good news. How big was the hammer? I used a two pound on mine and was afraid to use anything bigger. I hope the next side goes better.
5 pound hit it 3 times POP
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 10:29 AM
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sorry, busy at work, make more spend more on vette. I am back to the vette, got new h.d. strut rods+ gooies from v.b.p. bushing are bad in old rods. but now I can not get off the s.m. got the s.m. remover tool used p.b. spray all of it a lot. hammered on it willnot brake loose, if I hammer more I will maybe brake some thing like the t-arm bushings or spindle support. what can I do next, cut them off I ordered new one, but how do you get the parts out of spindles, DRILL THEM OUT??

With the car on jack stands, use a jack to raise the trailing arm to normal ride position. You mave have to disconnect the spring to do this. When the trailing arm is at full droop, the strut rod is in a bind and this can make it difficult to remove the shock mount.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MajD
In many C3 rear ends (mine included) the differential yoke wears down as the the splined shaft rides on the center pin. There is a retaining clip that eventually comes off if the shaft wears far enough (about 1/8 of and inch or so). You'll know this has happened when you jack the rear of your car up and the weight of the tires pulls the yokes out about 1/4 - 3/8 inches or more and you can see the shafts. Once this happens, you need to change the yokes or the dust shield will begin rubbing against the differential case.

With the camber properly adjusted, and the weight on the car, the tires push in on the yokes. So as the yokes wear, the camber becomes more pronounced. If the shop you take your car to only aligns the front wheels, then eventually your camber would be out of tolerance. However, if they also align the rear, I would think they could compensate for the yoke wear by adjusting the cam bolt on the strut rod.
Good to know.... Thanks!!!
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That's good news. How big was the hammer? I used a two pound on mine and was afraid to use anything bigger. I hope the next side goes better.
update side 2 is bad did not move with big hammer!! cut s rod off of s mount, cut s mount in 2 used a puller to get it off of the ears
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Old Aug 15, 2014 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rays699
update side 2 is bad did not move with big hammer!! cut s rod off of s mount, cut s mount in 2 used a puller to get it off of the ears
Glad ya got it, it took a b.f.h. to get them out on mine.
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