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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 12:26 AM
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Make sure you support the turbo. Manifold alone supporting the turbo often cracks.
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Make sure you support the turbo. Manifold alone supporting the turbo often cracks.
Yeah it had 1 when it was taller seemed pretty stiff as I shortened it....u think I can use old ac support bracket to intake?
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Yeah it had 1 when it was taller seemed pretty stiff as I shortened it....u think I can use old ac support bracket to intake?
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 06:55 PM
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Yeah it had 1 when it was taller seemed pretty stiff as I shortened it....u think I can use old ac support bracket to intake?
When I made mine, I welded some 1/4" plate from the turbo mount to the head.

I made a few different turbo manifolds a few different ways. The ones that were the most rigid was based on a set of cast iron Fbody LT1 manifolds, ran backwards. I used some cast weld-el's (from a plumbing supply, think steam fitter) to a T4 flange. Then gusseted some 1/4" plate in a few spots and a standoff to the head. Was very strong!

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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 09:04 PM
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Pretty rigid now but won't hurt to add support to prevent stress
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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 07:54 PM
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looks pretty good!! Just got these manifolds for next winters project.

It looks a little tight but seems you got it in there pretty well and under the stock hood.
Thanks for the pictures I could tell the turbo would sit too high but couldn't tell by how much, so seems like you cut about 3" as you said.

can I ask what size turbo is that in the pictures and did you have any issues with the crossover pipe and the oil pan? thanks
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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ali Vette
looks pretty good!! Just got these manifolds for next winters project.

It looks a little tight but seems you got it in there pretty well and under the stock hood.
Thanks for the pictures I could tell the turbo would sit too high but couldn't tell by how much, so seems like you cut about 3" as you said.

can I ask what size turbo is that in the pictures and did you have any issues with the crossover pipe and the oil pan? thanks


It was sitting pretty high but got the stainless manifolds for reasonable price..
Had to cut it down & move waste gate to lower side because it was in the way of downpipe
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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ali Vette
looks pretty good!! Just got these manifolds for next winters project.

It looks a little tight but seems you got it in there pretty well and under the stock hood.
Thanks for the pictures I could tell the turbo would sit too high but couldn't tell by how much, so seems like you cut about 3" as you said.

can I ask what size turbo is that in the pictures and did you have any issues with the crossover pipe and the oil pan? thanks
Its a small t25 ball bearing gt28r mock up 51mm spools very quick.
Crossover pipe fit fine it was my z bar that I had to modify and run shorter spark plugs Had to move arm on z bar & extended shift fork on transmission
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I wanted some input on this small piston for timing control
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Old May 1, 2018 | 03:49 PM
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thanks for the extra pics, yeah that looks too tall in the before picture.
I think that turbo will be a little small but looks like there is a little more space for a bigger turbo.

I won't have the Z bar as I am going hydraulic so hopefully that wont be an issue on mine.

Not sure what the piston is going to do, does that fit onto the distributor somehow?

I am going to go with something electronic as I figure the timing being off will be the easiest way to trash the engine. MSD makes a boost timing unit, but I think I am going to reuse one of my spare standalones and run fuel injection with some ls coils so I can dial it in.
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Originally Posted by Ali Vette
thanks for the extra pics, yeah that looks too tall in the before picture.
I think that turbo will be a little small but looks like there is a little more space for a bigger turbo.

I won't have the Z bar as I am going hydraulic so hopefully that wont be an issue on mine.

Not sure what the piston is going to do, does that fit onto the distributor somehow?

I am going to go with something electronic as I figure the timing being off will be the easiest way to trash the engine. MSD makes a boost timing unit, but I think I am going to reuse one of my spare standalones and run fuel injection with some ls coils so I can dial it in.
Sounds good I'll let you know it all tunes out......I just had small turbo laying around I figured y not try it out ..
The piston will just back off timing as boost rolls in
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Old May 1, 2018 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ali Vette
thanks for the extra pics, yeah that looks too tall in the before picture.
I think that turbo will be a little small but looks like there is a little more space for a bigger turbo.

I won't have the Z bar as I am going hydraulic so hopefully that wont be an issue on mine.

Not sure what the piston is going to do, does that fit onto the distributor somehow?

I am going to go with something electronic as I figure the timing being off will be the easiest way to trash the engine. MSD makes a boost timing unit, but I think I am going to reuse one of my spare standalones and run fuel injection with some ls coils so I can dial it in.
Not trying to reinvent the wheel just make it roll .....I know this stuff is available to purchase but I'm going to try using this pnumatic piston to control backing off timing that starts moving @ 1psi
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I don't see how that turbo ( even 2 is smallish) isn't a major choke on a 350 cube engine. It will be ovver worked and outside it's efficiency at anything but "idle" conditions. At least throw a China gt45 on their for 200 dollars so you know your not chasing heat related issues and know that timing changes are accurate. Longevity surely won't be good over spinning it and that could easily take out the entire engine too...
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Originally Posted by tt 383
I don't see how that turbo ( even 2 is smallish) isn't a major choke on a 350 cube engine. It will be ovver worked and outside it's efficiency at anything but "idle" conditions. At least throw a China gt45 on their for 200 dollars so you know your not chasing heat related issues and know that timing changes are accurate. Longevity surely won't be good over spinning it and that could easily take out the entire engine too...
It does choke it down way to much builds a lot of heat.....but I already had it to try out then upgrade
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Old May 21, 2018 | 10:16 PM
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Sounds good I'll let you know it all tunes out......I just had small turbo laying around I figured y not try it out ..
The piston will just back off timing as boost rolls in
Actually made some good pulls on it after closing my plug gap to 20 ànd dropping timing 10.... Timing piston in place of vac can works so far....does fall on its face at rapid wot
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I don't understand how the piston is acting differently than the vacuum can.

In any case, if all I was doing was timing control for boost, I'd put together a small controller using an Arduino, map sensor and a remote control servo. Probably under $30 in parts. The arduino can read the map sensor and tell the servo where to put the timing. It could even be calibrated so you know the exact timing at all times. Add a $4 led numerical display and now you've also got a digital boost gauge.

I could help you with the program if you're interested.
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