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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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I know this is a dumb question, but I have to ask it in case I'm missing something. My '78 non ac car - how in the world do I get some decent fresh air while driving in the rain with the windows up?
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I know this is a dumb question, but I have to ask it in case I'm missing something. My '78 non ac car - how in the world do I get some decent fresh air while driving in the rain with the windows up?
Not a dumb question at all! I wonder about that too, because I could not see anything, anywhere, where there is a fresh air source in these cars. My interior was a shell, mind you and I still saw nothing. Or are we missing something?
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You drive your vette in the rain? :-)

Jk.... I take it the vent system doesn't work? Mine have "astro ventilation" which I assume GM abandoned by then...
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You drive your vette in the rain? :-)

Jk.... I take it the vent system doesn't work? Mine have "astro ventilation" which I assume GM abandoned by then...
No Astro Vent on mine. Remember the good old days you had fresh air come in at your feet by pulling a **** on the bottom of the dash? There was a duct on both sides in the engine compartment that went to the front that supplied the cool fresh air - what happen to thoses?
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While I've never owned a car without AC (though my 76's AC is inop. right now) I would think that you just set the HVAC controls to "Vent" and it'd pull air through the box.

Maybe I'm wrong; hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in. Good luck.
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While I've never owned a car without AC (though my 76's AC is inop. right now) I would think that you just set the HVAC controls to "Vent" and it'd pull air through the box.

Maybe I'm wrong; hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in. Good luck.
That's the problem - that air is usually not that cool.
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It's probably not intended to be cool, just fresh. If you wanted cool air you ordered AC, at least if I were the marketing guy back in the day that's what I'd have told people.

Sorry I can't help.
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Make sure your hood seal is good and there are no other holes from the engine compartment into the windshield wiper bay. That's where you get your outside air.
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do you have a heater valve shut off?if the heater is shut off the air coming thru the vent should feel cool or at least not hot.
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do you have a heater valve shut off?if the heater is shut off the air coming thru the vent should feel cool or at least not hot.
Yes, and it's working correctly.
I think I'm expecting too much from an ill designed set up.
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Originally Posted by BLUDICE
...I think I'm expecting too much from an ill designed set up...
Sounds like you're blaming a forty year old design for local weather conditions.
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Originally Posted by BLUDICE
I know this is a dumb question, but I have to ask it in case I'm missing something. My '78 non ac car - how in the world do I get some decent fresh air while driving in the rain with the windows up?
Your '78 is not a non-A/C car. Well it may not have A/C now, but when it left St. Louis, it came with a ventilation system designed around A/C. It relies on the A/C in ways the pre-'76, non-A/C cars never did. I think you'll find most "modern" cars are seriously lacking in fresh air ventilation today (except perhaps in the cooler months) when the A/C is not functioning.

Restoring the original A/C may no longer be an option for you, but one thing you might consider is a system such as Vintage Air offers. It's a modern system that is very efficient, compact and with a dose of mechanical ability on your part can be installed at home. Not inexpensive, but it can make that classic into a joy to drive year around... even in South Florida.

I've seen quite a few vintage muscle cars transformed in recent years from being fair weather cars into year around cruisers by many of these modern systems. We recently installed a modern climate control system in a '69 Camaro, with a tricked out 383 and a high stall automatic. Something pretty much unheard of back in the day. Technology can be a great thing.

Good luck... GUSTO
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I know this is a dumb question, but I have to ask it in case I'm missing something. My '78 non ac car - how in the world do I get some decent fresh air while driving in the rain with the windows up?
It was a long time ago but I had a '78 with A/C and wanted fresh air to the driver side. I pulled the kick panel off by the LH side and cut a hole in the fiberglass. This opened up airflow from the plenum. Used an air valve off a C-2 to control the flow. It worked.
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Originally Posted by BLUDICE
No Astro Vent on mine. Remember the good old days you had fresh air come in at your feet by pulling a **** on the bottom of the dash? There was a duct on both sides in the engine compartment that went to the front that supplied the cool fresh air - what happen to thoses?
Yes, those were the good old days. Unfortunately in the mid-70's the car manufacturers went to a sort of false vent setting on the heater controls that just gives you hot air inside. My 81 AMC eagle is a nice exception to that, it still has a **** that opens a door that directly lets cold air in. Now that the A/C is not working on my 79 its pretty warm inside even when its 60 outside and the vent selection is useless.

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While I've never owned a car without AC (though my 76's AC is inop. right now) I would think that you just set the HVAC controls to "Vent" and it'd pull air through the box.
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That's the problem - that air is usually not that cool.
A real shortcoming in most cars produced since the mid-70's. I don't even know why they have a "vent" position, its totally useless. My 79 is cooler with the heater control in the off position than it is with it in the vent position.
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Originally Posted by kjbuster1
It was a long time ago but I had a '78 with A/C and wanted fresh air to the driver side. I pulled the kick panel off by the LH side and cut a hole in the fiberglass. This opened up airflow from the plenum. Used an air valve off a C-2 to control the flow. It worked.
That sounds like a great solution - just what I wanted to hear. But more details would be nice. Thx
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