Please help me ID my engine
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Burning Brakes
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Please help me ID my engine
Hello everyone,
My father and I bought a '68 vert to restore. It is in good shape, and our plan is to make it a driver. Eventually, we would like to drop in a larger engine, but other things take priority and I really just want to figure out what I have now. The seller stated that it was not the original 327 but was a 327 from the correct era. All I know is that it is incredibly slow, but I am comparing it to a '88 vert that I have been driving. I know I see what I think is a blocked return line for fuel and a recirculation line that is cut off, but other than those things does anyone see anything that is a major concern?
Intake number - 3919805 - a little searching and it looks like maybe a truck intake
Block - from driver's side behind motor - 3970010 - looks like it could be from anything from a 69 RS to a 70's something truck.
Carb - from sticker on carb - 1050177 & 64-7096
Thanks guys
My father and I bought a '68 vert to restore. It is in good shape, and our plan is to make it a driver. Eventually, we would like to drop in a larger engine, but other things take priority and I really just want to figure out what I have now. The seller stated that it was not the original 327 but was a 327 from the correct era. All I know is that it is incredibly slow, but I am comparing it to a '88 vert that I have been driving. I know I see what I think is a blocked return line for fuel and a recirculation line that is cut off, but other than those things does anyone see anything that is a major concern?
Intake number - 3919805 - a little searching and it looks like maybe a truck intake
Block - from driver's side behind motor - 3970010 - looks like it could be from anything from a 69 RS to a 70's something truck.
Carb - from sticker on carb - 1050177 & 64-7096
Thanks guys
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Burning Brakes
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Head number - I read several threads about checking there, but I cleaned it with simple green and saw nothing there
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Then you're SOL.
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Hi SDS,
The stamped information Mike suggested you look for isn't on the head, but is on a pad on the block's top surface.
There will likely be 2 sets of stamped letters and digits.
That will tell you the configuration of the engine when it was originally assembled, when that was, and the vehicle it first was installed in.
Something like this… it could well be painted over. Is this where you looked?
Hope you can find it.
Regards,
Alan
The stamped information Mike suggested you look for isn't on the head, but is on a pad on the block's top surface.
There will likely be 2 sets of stamped letters and digits.
That will tell you the configuration of the engine when it was originally assembled, when that was, and the vehicle it first was installed in.
Something like this… it could well be painted over. Is this where you looked?
Hope you can find it.
Regards,
Alan
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The carb is a commercially rebuilt carb, and is likely to have significant issues, likely to affect performance. It should have a fuel filter in the carb body, so your in-line filter (which appears to be hacked-in on the suction side of the pump)should be removed - filters installed on the suction side are a bad idea, and will result in fuel starvation at elevated rpm when used with the stock diaphragm pump.
Lars
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Burning Brakes
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Hi SDS,
The stamped information Mike suggested you look for isn't on the head, but is on a pad on the block's top surface.
There will likely be 2 sets of stamped letters and digits.
That will tell you the configuration of the engine when it was originally assembled, when that was, and the vehicle it first was installed in.
Something like this… it could well be painted over. Is this where you looked?
Hope you can find it.
Regards,
Alan
The stamped information Mike suggested you look for isn't on the head, but is on a pad on the block's top surface.
There will likely be 2 sets of stamped letters and digits.
That will tell you the configuration of the engine when it was originally assembled, when that was, and the vehicle it first was installed in.
Something like this… it could well be painted over. Is this where you looked?
Hope you can find it.
Regards,
Alan
The carb is a commercially rebuilt carb, and is likely to have significant issues, likely to affect performance. It should have a fuel filter in the carb body, so your in-line filter (which appears to be hacked-in on the suction side of the pump)should be removed - filters installed on the suction side are a bad idea, and will result in fuel starvation at elevated rpm when used with the stock diaphragm pump.
Lars
Lars
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Mike: As lars suggested, looks like the PO installed the filter ahead of the fuel pump, although the pics don't show where the filter outlet hose goes. You can see most of the hard line from the pump to the carb in the 3rd pic. Who knows?
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Where?
So I need to see where those lines go?
So I need to see where those lines go?
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Yes, it needs to be sorted out. The hose leaving the filter either goes to the fuel pump inlet or connects to the hard line feeding the carb with an electric fuel pump somewhere between the gas tank and inline filter.
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Burning Brakes
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Ok, battery totally dead (car would not start even on a jumper box) so I could not pull it in the garage last night. I did trace the fuel line and it does go to the mechanical pump at the front of the engine. I sprayed simple green on the front of the block to expose the information there but it was too cold to get it all the way cleaned off. Is there a better product to try to clean it off?
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Ok, battery totally dead (car would not start even on a jumper box) so I could not pull it in the garage last night. I did trace the fuel line and it does go to the mechanical pump at the front of the engine. I sprayed simple green on the front of the block to expose the information there but it was too cold to get it all the way cleaned off. Is there a better product to try to clean it off?
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Burning Brakes
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Carb number - 7028212 - truck carb?
Block number? CEA127502 - lost here
Heater core is bypassed, and there is a fuse blocking off a hose from the carb.
Block number? CEA127502 - lost here
Heater core is bypassed, and there is a fuse blocking off a hose from the carb.
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So, I need to get a hardline from to complete from the hardline to the mechanical pump. What about the rubber line from the passenger valve cover and the blocked line on the carb?
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I just turned the photo and thought the same thing. Well, at least now I know what this dog is.
So, I need to get a hardline from to complete from the hardline to the mechanical pump. What about the rubber line from the passenger valve cover and the blocked line on the carb?
So, I need to get a hardline from to complete from the hardline to the mechanical pump. What about the rubber line from the passenger valve cover and the blocked line on the carb?