C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Who is using a vacuum pump?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 13, 2015 | 03:20 PM
  #1  
Street Rat's Avatar
Street Rat
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 5,339
Likes: 546
From: Central Texas
Default Who is using a vacuum pump?

I have a lack of good vacuum sources on my intake manifold. I was wondering about using an electric vacuum pump. Are they noisy? Pros and cons please.
Old Apr 13, 2015 | 03:22 PM
  #2  
Street Rat's Avatar
Street Rat
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 5,339
Likes: 546
From: Central Texas
Default

Old Apr 13, 2015 | 03:45 PM
  #3  
mikem350's Avatar
mikem350
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,105
Likes: 96
From: Sunrise FL
Default

My sb 350 has a Victor Jr intake with NO vacuum ports! This is from the PO and I am thinking of going RPM Air Gap if it fits under hood. Search the archives there is some info about adding them buy drilling and tapping ports. If you are talking about pumps there is info about hydroboost ones, maybe electric too.
Old Apr 13, 2015 | 04:30 PM
  #4  
gerry72's Avatar
gerry72
Safety Car
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,711
Likes: 43
From: San Antonio TX
Default

I used to. They are noisy and vibrate quite a bit even with isolators. Unless you are driven to use one due to very low vacuum conditions, seek another solution. The upside is they develop vacuum well beyond what you're likely to see from engine vacuum so the power booster is always going to provide maximum assist.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 12:39 AM
  #5  
dugsgms74's Avatar
dugsgms74
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 904
Likes: 46
From: Crestline CA
Default

Cant see the point what with the price of viagra being so low nowadays. Sorry, couldnt resist.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 01:16 AM
  #6  
7T1vette's Avatar
7T1vette
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 37,637
Likes: 3,118
From: Crossville TN
Default

Unless your engine is a 'full-race' build with a very radical cam, it should produce over 10"Hg (stock engines produce around 20"Hg); and that's enough to operate all vacuum operated components in a C3.

You likely have vacuum leak issues that you will still have if you install another vacuum pump. Remove and plug all vacuum lines on the intake manifold except for the distributor advance can (remove and plug off the power brake hose, too). Then check your [baseline] vacuum level at idle. If it is lower than 10"Hg, you have some problems or a very wild cam. My bet is that you will have over 12"Hg and that you just need to find and fix the vacuum leaks in your systems.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 08:25 AM
  #7  
Street Rat's Avatar
Street Rat
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 5,339
Likes: 546
From: Central Texas
Default

Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Unless your engine is a 'full-race' build with a very radical cam, it should produce over 10"Hg (stock engines produce around 20"Hg); and that's enough to operate all vacuum operated components in a C3.

You likely have vacuum leak issues that you will still have if you install another vacuum pump. Remove and plug all vacuum lines on the intake manifold except for the distributor advance can (remove and plug off the power brake hose, too). Then check your [baseline] vacuum level at idle. If it is lower than 10"Hg, you have some problems or a very wild cam. My bet is that you will have over 12"Hg and that you just need to find and fix the vacuum leaks in your systems.
My engine isn't installed yet. It should have plenty of vacuum as it has quite a docile cam in it. I only have the 3/8 port on the back of my Holley 650 DP for vacuum accessories . I built a vacuum (tree) that provides a port for everything but I don't know if it will be enough vacuum for everything. I don't want to pull the intake off my assembled engine to drill some extra ports. But that may be what I end up doing or the vacuum pump.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 08:28 AM
  #8  
Street Rat's Avatar
Street Rat
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 5,339
Likes: 546
From: Central Texas
Default

Originally Posted by dugsgms74
Cant see the point what with the price of viagra being so low nowadays. Sorry, couldnt resist.
I don't know where you are getting your Viagra but mine is high dollar.

Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 09:53 AM
  #9  
tshort's Avatar
tshort
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,659
Likes: 7
From: Katy (Houston) TX
CI 7-8 Veteran
Default

I've run a vacuum pump (very radical solid cam with no vacuum) for about 5 years. As mentioned, they put out a lot of vacuum and keep brakes solid. I've converted everything except for the brakes over to electric and when the funds are available I will end up with hydraboost and finally get rid of the vacuum pump. They are noisy which is my number 1 complaint. But it works well. I put mine behind the driver side gills. Plenty of room and plenty of air flow to keep cool. I have it powered on off of a relay.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 11:21 AM
  #10  
Rebelrob's Avatar
Rebelrob
Drifting
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,534
Likes: 14
From: Dallas-Fort Worth TX
Default

I have 3 manifold vac ports and 1 ported on my Holley Vac Secondary Carb.
Then I have 1 vac port off of the Air Gap intake. You could tap/drill more ports if needed.
Check your carb out and see if you have any additional. I have a dedicated vac line for the booster and PCV. Although I have been told that my booster is bad, as it does not seem to hold vaccum.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 11:59 AM
  #11  
7T1vette's Avatar
7T1vette
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 37,637
Likes: 3,118
From: Crossville TN
Default

If you still have your emissions equipment on the car (including the vapor recovery cansiter), you will need 3 vacuum connections as a minimum.

1) a large fitting at the base of the carb which should connect with the power brake booster (if you have one; if not, you can use this for ALL manifold vacuum lines). If you have power brakes, you do NOT want to connect any other vacuum lines to this connection. The power brake vacuum line should be all by itself.

2) a fitting that is 'manifold' vacuum which should connect with the vacuum reservoir tank as the supply source. All other manifold vacuum lines can then connect to the tank outlet. It is best to have a line filter and a one-way check valve in this main feed line; the check valve would then maintain max vacuum in the reservoir tank, even when under acceleration.

3) a fitting that is 'timed/ported' vacuum for connecting emissions-related equipment and the actuator valve on the vapor recovery canister.

All carbs should have at least those 3 fittings on them. Otherwise, you would not be able to connect all equipment to the carb.

If your carb does not have a manifold vacuum source fitting, you must then find a point on the intake manifold where you can connect a vacuum source fitting to send to the vacuum reservoir tank. Most manifolds have a pipe plug in them for this purpose. If there is none, you would need to drill and tap for a fitting...somewhere behind the carb would be best.

Last edited by 7T1vette; Apr 14, 2015 at 12:06 PM.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 12:24 PM
  #12  
hugie82's Avatar
hugie82
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,652
Likes: 49
From: Bridgewater nj
Default

I have a booster assist vac pump on my 2003 SS Silverado. It kicks on when I'm trailering with very little noise. I would think any GM vehicle with the LQ9 engine would have this pump if you want to search salvage yards.
Old Apr 14, 2015 | 12:34 PM
  #13  
mikem350's Avatar
mikem350
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,105
Likes: 96
From: Sunrise FL
Default

With a mild cam there is no way you should even consider adding a pump! I have exactly same problem...see my answer in #3 response
Old Jun 12, 2020 | 06:25 PM
  #14  
13BoostedGS's Avatar
13BoostedGS
Advanced
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 84
Likes: 5
From: Colorado
Default

Excellent write up! What gauge and amperage add a fuse did you use?

Get notified of new replies

To Who is using a vacuum pump?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:34 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE