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Old Aug 7, 2015 | 09:13 AM
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The vacuum door that is located on the right side of the passenger footwell I think is the recirculating door flapper. It does not open all the way and is real slow. Hooked up vacuum gauge to line coming to it and I have about 4-5 lbs of vacuum pull. Hook up my vacuum pump direct to valve and it will open at 8ish lbs and hold a vacuum. So it only opens part way when in recirc mode. It is on a 1972 model,year.

Ok, confirm this for me. If I want full recirculating air all the time I can block open the door. When it is 98+ outside it needs all the help it can get. Is their another door that opens or shuts when it goes into recirc mode?

Done c-4 upgrade and sealed all ducts and it blows cold air, but struggles in really hot weather.

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The vacuum door that is located on the right side of the passenger footwell I think is the recirculating door flapper. It does not open all the way and is real slow. Hooked up vacuum gauge to line coming to it and I have about 4-5 lbs of vacuum pull. Hook up my vacuum pump direct to valve and it will open at 8ish lbs and hold a vacuum. So it only opens part way when in recirc mode.

Ok, confirm this for me. If I want full recirculating air all the time I can block open the door. When it is 98+ outside it needs all the help it can get. Is their another door that opens or shuts when it goes into recirc mode?

Done c-4 upgrade and sealed all ducts and it blows cold air, but struggles in really hot weather.
The flapper under the fender opens with the one at the kick panel.

You didn't say what year but here is a hose function schematic



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Sorry, it is a 72

Is the one under the fender easy access? If it is the one I am thinking about it will wait until later! All hoses are good as are the vacuum pots. I tested them when I did the heater core change. It blows cold air, but I guess I am getting greedy!

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Sorry, it is a 72

Is the one under the fender easy access? If it is the one I am thinking about it will wait until later! All hoses are good as are the vacuum pots. I tested them when I did the heater core change. It blows cold air, but I guess I am getting greedy!
It's not too hard to get too... just kind of a pain.

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It's not too hard to get too... just kind of a pain.

I don't have my manual handy. Is your drawing of the vacuum pot that is access by removing the kick panel? I cannot figure out where the other is located. I have looked at my photos of when I did the heater replacement and really don't want to pull the dash again to get the heater core box out.
What am I missing here?
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Nope... the one above is the one under the fender.

Here is the one under the kick panel.... and if I were you I'd check the linkage. They can become corroded and hinder the pods movement.

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It's not too hard to get too... just kind of a pain.

What exactly does this this flap do in regards to air flow? . I noticed the blower motor cage is visible in the wiper trough. So it must always get fresh air through there.
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Nope... the one above is the one under the fender.

Here is the one under the kick panel.... and if I were you I'd check the linkage. They can become corroded and hinder the pods movement.

I know the one in the footwell works like it should when it has vacuum applied via a pump. The car vacuum takes a little effort to open it.

I have no idea about the other one as it was news to me before you told me about it. Suggestions on best way to access it?

On a good note my body mounts and birdcage is dang near perfect!
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What exactly does this this flap do in regards to air flow? . I noticed the blower motor cage is visible in the wiper trough. So it must always get fresh air through there.

It allows the AC to reuse the air inside the car for a faster cool down. It is easier to cool 80 degree air and keep it cool than cooling 100 degree outside air
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It allows the AC to reuse the air inside the car for a faster cool down. It is easier to cool 80 degree air and keep it cool than cooling 100 degree outside air
Since the blower is always open to outside air it would always be adding outside air to the recirculating air. You would never get 100% recirculated air. Unless you could block the outside air from getting to the blower through the wiper trough.
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Since the blower is always open to outside air it would always be adding outside air to the recirculating air. You would never get 100% recirculated air. Unless you could block the outside air from getting to the blower through the wiper trough.
If I understand this right, and may not, the vacuum pot under the fender closes of the outside air when the AC is on in the max position. But, I may be wrong. I doubt you get 100% recirc, but it should be close.

When it cools off I plan to,look at mine and see where this thing is at and test it
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I don't have my manual handy. Is your drawing of the vacuum pot that is access by removing the kick panel? I cannot figure out where the other is located. I have looked at my photos of when I did the heater replacement and really don't want to pull the dash again to get the heater core box out.
What am I missing here?
Ok, I give up.where is this dang thing? It is not outside the cabin from what I can tell, so it must be inside and behind the dash cover. I can't tell much from my manual so if anyone has a good photo I would appreciate it..
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Ok, I give up.where is this dang thing? It is not outside the cabin from what I can tell, so it must be inside and behind the dash cover. I can't tell much from my manual so if anyone has a good photo I would appreciate it..
It's under the passenger side fender at the end. Raise the hood and you should find it.

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Its at the right end of the wiper/cowl area, can bee seen with the hood up, wiper door open. There may be a screen blocking the area, keeping leaves etc. out of the blower.
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Oh my. Looks like a job for someone with little hands. Looks like wiper grill and cover has to come off. First I will try the vacuum pump to see if the pot is good. I,hope it is just stuck shut. Thanks to all
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I believe if it's shut with the car off, then it's stuck. Should be closed only with AC on max and car running. IIRC, vacuum closes it.
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Want to do this the easy way?? and leave the body alone?? pull the right front wheel, get a cut off wheel/angle cutter in there are cut out the rear of the tire well, be CAREFUL, then you can pull the blower assy, and then the wiper door/metal grate in front of it.....then find a couple/three? bolts under the fender, remove them and the whole outside air door assy comes out.....the thing is just the opposite in action to the inner/recirc door, the normal setting/ engine off is to outside air is always open....PIA my '72 is a vert, so years ago, I cut the springs and valves on that outside air door, reinstalled it with a heavy coat of RTV, and sealed it SHUT, the inside door behind the kick panel was trashed, so MY A/C is on permanent recirc.....and of course I have a C4 blower also.....nice chilly air....
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I got a c4 blower on mine already. I am not sure about cutting wheel well. I figure I will do it the hard way. I am going to try to fish it out and check vacuum
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