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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 09:07 PM
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Anyone else have this problem with the starter getting too hot and then refusing to start within the next 2 hours or so? Or is that just on BB's?
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Check all your cables- the short negative cable from the battery to the frame, then the one from the frame to the block. Connections should be clean and tight. Might also check the resistance of the cables- they can corrode internally and you can't see it. Drives the resistance way up.
Starter may be the problem too- easy to pull it and get it tested. Or rebuilt.
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Check all your cables- the short negative cable from the battery to the frame, then the one from the frame to the block. Connections should be clean and tight. Might also check the resistance of the cables- they can corrode internally and you can't see it. Drives the resistance way up.
Starter may be the problem too- easy to pull it and get it tested. Or rebuilt.
Could it be the ignition switch going bad? Recently I've noticed it being a little intermittent. Possible the battery is not getting enough use in the dog days of summer to keep a full charge. Since I switched to header exhaust pipes I seem to have a problem with the starter overheating in 80-90 degree weather on a BB. Switched to a high torque starter and it worked but currently have a regular delco starter.
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These old style starters do not like heat. (Actually, it's the solenoid).
BBC with headers are the worst.
Install a heat shield, or a good quality mini-starter.
They are just no fun when they are unreliable.
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
These old style starters do not like heat. (Actually, it's the solenoid).
BBC with headers are the worst.
Install a heat shield, or a good quality mini-starter.
They are just no fun when they are unreliable.
Are those difficult (mini starters) to get the teeth aligned to engage properly sometimes? i had a little trouble with that.
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Old Sep 2, 2015 | 12:21 AM
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Try a mini high torque starter with a heat shield and wrap the header on that side with exhaust wrap.
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Originally Posted by CiCiC3
Anyone else have this problem with the starter getting too hot and then refusing to start within the next 2 hours or so? Or is that just on BB's?

Take that lousy 2-gauge aluminum block-to-frame ground cable off and replace it with a quality 4-gauge copper cable with copper eyes. To save 25 cents per car G.M. started using aluminum cables with aluminum eyes; not realizing after about 20 years corrosion would build up inside the eyes and cause massive resistance (no crank when hot).
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Originally Posted by toobroketoretire
Take that lousy 2-gauge aluminum block-to-frame ground cable off and replace it with a quality 4-gauge copper cable with copper eyes. To save 25 cents per car G.M. started using aluminum cables with aluminum eyes; not realizing after about 20 years corrosion would build up inside the eyes and cause massive resistance (no crank when hot).
Sounds like you might be on to something with that idea. Thanx
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I guess it's just the combo of having a hot solenoid and a battery that's withered from all the summer heat and short trips.
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Yeah, mine does it too. I only have to wait about 20-30 minutes. I hope to get some time to check the ground this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
These old style starters do not like heat. (Actually, it's the solenoid).
BBC with headers are the worst.
Install a heat shield, or a good quality mini-starter.
They are just no fun when they are unreliable.
This is correct^^^^^^^

Originally Posted by toobroketoretire
Take that lousy 2-gauge aluminum block-to-frame ground cable off and replace it with a quality 4-gauge copper cable with copper eyes. To save 25 cents per car G.M. started using aluminum cables with aluminum eyes; not realizing after about 20 years corrosion would build up inside the eyes and cause massive resistance (no crank when hot).
This is NOT correct ^^^^^^^^
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