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Found a new loose hose along with some soot beneath my 74 convertible today. See pic attached. Is this canister beneath the washer reservoir the charcoal canister? I looked in my aim manua but the canister page was so hard to read to not be of help. The loose hose connects to the port on the right (when looking at it from passenger fender). Where does the other end go ?
The left port that stayed connected looks like it is attached to a metal fuel line heading back towards tank. What about this loose hose ? They both go to tank ?
Originally Posted by terry82
looks like your charcoal canister.the hose should go to your fuel tank
2025 c3 ('74-'82) of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C3 of Year Finalist (appearance mods)
Hello OO7,
If your 74 is like mine then you only have two ports on the vapor canister.
One line connects to a 'ported vacuum' port on the carb.
The other line attaches to a hard line and goes towards the tank.
Thanks Peterbuilt - my AIM manua page looks same as what you posted but i cant make any of that out.
So i recently had he carb rebuilt, and a full tune. I dont see any open ports on the Rochester carb. Im wondering now if this canister outlet port has been disconnected for awhile and i just failed to notice. The fuel tank line is hooked up fine. What repercussions are there by not connecting the canister to the carb ? Can i leave it alone ?
Originally Posted by Peterbuilt
Hello OO7,
If your 74 is like mine then you only have two ports on the vapor canister.
One line connects to a 'ported vacuum' port on the carb.
The other line attaches to a hard line and goes towards the tank.
Hi V,
The purpose of the charcoal in the canister is to 'capture' and hold the gasoline vapors while the engine isn't running.
Once the engine is started the gasoline vapors are 'pulled' from the charcoal by the engine's vacuum.
If the hose from the canister to the engine isn't in place the charcoal in the canister can become saturated with gasoline.
At first this can be sensed by a gasoline smell in the garage or as it becomes more saturated a drip from the bottom of the canister.
Regards,
Alan
Thanks Alan- very helpful explanation. So it appears i need to find which port on the carb this line needs to run to. The aim manual is hard to read in this sense to show me the carb port in detail. Any guidance on a schematic or pic that might better show where the canister is supposed to connect in this standard rochester carb ?
Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi V,
The purpose of the charcoal in the canister is to 'capture' and hold the gasoline vapors while the engine isn't running.
Once the engine is started the gasoline vapors are 'pulled' from the charcoal by the engine's vacuum.
If the hose from the canister to the engine isn't in place the charcoal in the canister can become saturated with gasoline.
At first this can be sensed by a gasoline smell in the garage or as it becomes more saturated a drip from the bottom of the canister.
Regards,
Alan
2025 c3 ('74-'82) of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2019 C3 of Year Finalist (appearance mods)
There are several ports on your carb.
To tell which port is which use a vacuum gauge.
MANIFOLD vacuum ports have vacuum at idle and above idle at any steady RPM..
PORTED vacuum ports have no vacuum at idle but do have vacuum at higher steady RPM.
One last concern - lets assume my recent tune/carb rebuild was done without the canister plugged into a ported vacuum port. When i go plug this in now, would you expect my tune to be off ? This is new load on the carb that wasnt there before. Or am i overthinking this?
Originally Posted by Peterbuilt
There are several ports on your carb.
To tell which port is which use a vacuum gauge.
MANIFOLD vacuum ports have vacuum at idle and above idle at any steady RPM..
PORTED vacuum ports have no vacuum at idle but do have vacuum at higher steady RPM.
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Originally Posted by Peterbuilt
There are several ports on your carb.
To tell which port is which use a vacuum gauge.
MANIFOLD vacuum ports have vacuum at idle and above idle at any steady RPM..
PORTED vacuum ports have no vacuum at idle but do have vacuum at higher steady RPM.
EX: Your PCV valve is on a ported port.
That's not correct. The PCV runs on direct manifold vacuum.
Just to close this thread out - upon inspection the port next to the idle screw on my carb was capped. Not sure if that happened before or during the carb rebuild but the cable was surely there before given hose length and your guidance. Car continues to idle fine as you said it would. Thanks All
Originally Posted by Peterbuilt
Hi Lars,
Thanks for the correction.
Obviously, I need a refresher so I'm going the email you a request for your 'vacuum signals and sources' paper.