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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by edusmc1
Only spark knocks when secondary's open up and rpms start to climb over the 3900 to 4000 range.

I'm thinking after talking to you Gentelmen the headers is what I'm going to have to do! I appreciate you reading my post and helping.

The easy step would be to try to richen the secondaries. Sounds like it's going lean.
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Old Nov 8, 2016 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by edusmc1
Heads were port and polished some, blended and 5 way value job. Flow test after work was done and I believe I remember him saying 254 he was able to get them to flow to.


Only spark knocks when secondary's open up and rpms start to climb over the 3900 to 4000 range. Timing is 34 at 300-3500 rpm and mech only but I did try the vaccum advance also but same thing. I've even retart timing back a little at a time back to 30% but same.
With what you have said... kind of... Older chamber heads can have 38 degrees mech advance and like 15 vacuum advance and run fine.

You are experiencing problems above 3500 rpm when you go to Wide Open Throttle. I would tend to say that you are having lean popping ... Not detonation.

Just a guess. You are having no fuel to the secondaries or limited. another guess is that on the back of the carb or manifold that you have a 3/8ths vacuum line to the vac brakes and headlights that is open or leaking.

Ram horns would run rich compared to a header setup because of restriction
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Old Jan 27, 2017 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Tune was probably optimized to be used with headers putting in a colder plug lost me power...every motor has different needs though.

If it were me Id get an 02 sensor (check AEM at summit for example) in your collector and see what the car is doing;h opefully you can tune around it id think you could

Or if you dont mind the funds get a better radiator/fan combo and bring your running and air inlet temps down.
If you got a cool stat get a better fan (flame suit on)and put the clutch deal off to the side I hate those things

Not saying that is THE solution but you wont regret it for sure. Bigger motor/power means more heat needs more cooling capacity.
Sounds like youre happy with overall power shame someone talked you into dumping all that money into old iron heads.

Keep us posted
I put headers on and runs like a champ with no spark knock anymore. Thanks for all the help! Appreciate it a lot.
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Old Jan 28, 2017 | 06:44 AM
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Far Fkkn Out Man....Glad U got it fingered out!!
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Old Jan 28, 2017 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by edusmc1
I put headers on and runs like a champ with no spark knock anymore. Thanks for all the help! Appreciate it a lot.
Kinda weird what makes an engine spark knock. The fact that you were running stock manifolds vs headers was in fact then slowing down the exit of the exhaust enough to cause significant heat accumulation leading to detonation.
Glad you were willing to try something new vs struggling with the current configuration forcing it to kinda work. Good Job!
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