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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
If the OP has the knowledge and skill set needed to do a gauge swap from a C5 to a C3, I'd say "Go for it!" But, when the OP states that the original gauges are "...worn out", I can surmise that he really doesn't know much about gauges...and that he has little knowledge of HOW the C3 gauging systems work--let alone the C5.

If he did have that knowledge, he wouldn't be asking here for that info. That being the case, I certainly wouldn't want to open the door of the 'snake pit' so that he could find himself in a bad situation later. If I'm reading his situation incorrectly, I wish him well on this task. I've done a lot of electrical work on cars, and I wouldn't wish that job on my worst enemy!
I AGREE with what you wrote and it is very TRUE,

But if that was the case in telling people not to try.....then this forum would cease to exist due to most people do not know and are asking for help.

I have lost count on the forum members who do not know much about a specific area and call me or PM back and forth... I walk them through it...they understand and fix their car and call me telling me that they 'Got it!'. I can still remember that sense of accomplishment when i 'got it'. Which is why I am here...to pas that along to those who ask for help. Regardless of skill level.

I do understand that this 'idea' of installing C5 dash into C3 is on a slightly advanced level. but if the person WANTS to do it..and is willing to spend the time....then it can be achieved.

I also do serious, intricate wiring repairs and modifications. And if anyone who reads this DOES NOT know about electrical. I can say it is NOT that hard to understand. And that is IF you want to understand it.

Electrical systems in car are so absolute. Meaning that the principles of electricity MUST be correct for an item to work. And there is NO different type of electrical theory that works for car components only. the system is a DC system.

I work on the new Corvettes and the old ones and they are ALL the same. The difference is how GM now adds more components from point 'A' to point 'B'. And taking the time to understand what GM is doing...does not take too long to figure out what is wrong.

For those who are still reading this....electrical is like math. We learned to add and subtract. Once the teacher though we 'got that'...they threw multiply and divide at us. Once we got that...then it was square roots...then more and more was taught to us. Electrical is no different in regards to understanding the basics and then expanding from that. And that is IF you only want to learn.

I did not get to the level of what I can do and know by sittign on my backside. I applied myself and taught myself due to much of what I learned by hands-on was all done with no internet.

So if a person WANT TO...then hopefully they try. NOTHING VENTURED---NOTHING GAINED.

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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
If the OP has the knowledge and skill set needed to do a gauge swap from a C5 to a C3, I'd say "Go for it!" But, when the OP states that the original gauges are "...worn out", I can surmise that he really doesn't know much about gauges...and that he has little knowledge of HOW the C3 gauging systems work--let alone the C5.

If he did have that knowledge, he wouldn't be asking here for that info. That being the case, I certainly wouldn't want to open the door of the 'snake pit' so that he could find himself in a bad situation later. If I'm reading his situation incorrectly, I wish him well on this task. I've done a lot of electrical work on cars, and I wouldn't wish that job on my worst enemy!
I have the mind set that there are no dumb questions just dumb answers and I guess this is one of those dumd answers. I thought this forum was to get information and learn from others not to be put down by people who think they have all the answers. I guess I should go to digital vette, there not so condescensing
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 07:05 PM
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I was kind of thinking of this but with out the the passenger bump. Thats why I was thinking of the c5 cluster, but Iv moved on.<br/>
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DUB

So if a person WANTS TO...then hopefully they try. NOTHING VENTURED---NOTHING GAINED.

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EXACTLY!!!

And Japery-

here's a thought- if you are looking for "that" kind of look in the custom C2- this might be right up your alley.

I have seen the C2 dashes fitted in C3's - so it shouldn't be that tough- but this is a great starting point- and then you could add your own custom gauges to it- about $900 for the fiberglass dash-

http://www.dashworksbypaulatkins.com...tte_Parts.html







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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 11:30 AM
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I can understand what you're looking for. To me, the individual gauges are incomplete because a complete dash requires a number of indicator lights and there are almost no aftermarket options for decent looking indicator lights. I did find these guys and they do sell nice looking indicator light strips.

http://newvintageusallc.mybigcommerc...icator-panels/

Have you looked at the various Dakota Digital dash clusters? Something there might fit your plans. These gauges include the indicators and 1 or 2 display panels for a more modern feel compared to individual gauges.


As for the C5 cluster.

The tach and speedometer require PWM signals from the PCM which is only available on a few of the late OBDI PCM's but available with any of the commonly OBDII stuff.

The other gauges use sensors and I think they'd work with older sensors that fit a gen I block since GM doesn't like changing the electrical operation of their sensors, just the packaging.

The fuel gauge uses a signal from the PCM so it wouldn't be easy to make it work with any other EFI system.

The display won't work right unless you have the compatible PCM, BCM, ABS and TPM systems in the car. Otherwise, you will have missing info or constant warning.

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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard454
EXACTLY!!!

And Japery-

here's a thought- if you are looking for "that" kind of look in the custom C2- this might be right up your alley.

I have seen the C2 dashes fitted in C3's - so it shouldn't be that tough- but this is a great starting point- and then you could add your own custom gauges to it- about $900 for the fiberglass dash-

http://www.dashworksbypaulatkins.com...tte_Parts.html







thanks, Im a big fan of what you did with the lambo interior thread. Thats what got me thinking about changing the dash to something thats more what the exterior is. (GM used cheap cardboard on the sides of the center concole on my 77,that dont even fit under the top plate)CRAP
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