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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 11:45 AM
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I'm considering changing from the stock shifter (4 speed) to a Hurst competition model. I am assuming that the Hurst bolts to the trans tailshaft rather than the stock cross member bracket as the factory one did. Can anyone enlighten me?
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 11:59 AM
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it does bolt to the tailshaft and below is a link to the instructions

http://files.dpbrands.com/hurst/inst...ns/3917992.pdf
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Here is a great video from Paul as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaQwPQTenMg
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It sure clears up the area around the trans. I do not see one getting the stock bracket out with out removing the crossmember to do so.

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It can be done pretty easy but it's tight.

Remove the left side exhaust pipe and transmission mount so you can lower it. Also remove the center console so you can access from the top.
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Originally Posted by ddawson
It can be done pretty easy but it's tight.

Remove the left side exhaust pipe and transmission mount so you can lower it. Also remove the center console so you can access from the top.
I had the trans out and it still was a pain.....
I suppose it could be done with some finesse.

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Did GM divorce the shifter from the trans just to eliminate vibration/ movement? I also wonder why they did not make the cross member removable as in the automatic models? It would have made life a bit easier! Things that make one go "Huh"?
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Originally Posted by Jeff k
Did GM divorce the shifter from the trans just to eliminate vibration/ movement? I also wonder why they did not make the cross member removable as in the automatic models? It would have made life a bit easier! Things that make one go "Huh"?
I always wondered that, if the mounting holes are there in the trans why does the stock shifter not attach there?
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It did attach to the transmission for the C2
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For what it is worth the stock shifter in my 69' 427/400 was a slick unit....throw was kinda of long but it worked very well.
I went with the Hurst on the 72' as it has stops....

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If you have an Muncie (not sure all were like this) but you'll notice two different holes in the shifter linkage arms that attach to the transmission. They are long throw and short throw holes. I changed mine to the short throw holes and it made a big difference. At the time I also rebuilt my shifter which also helps a lot. I'm happy with the results and for the most part it was a free mod (not counting the shifter rebuild kit of course).
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 06:02 PM
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Back in Philly I used to chrome plate em. I don't know where thay do em now tho. Proably offshore,was a job between Job thing.
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I don't mind the factory shifter. The throw is a bit long and eventually starts contacting the console opening. I always liked the reverse lockout feature, wish the Hurst had that option.
How many of you out there have a memory of laying on your back under the car either on the road or in a parking lot freeing up the linkage after getting the trans locked up in two gears?
Ahh, the good old days!!!!
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If your car has the short throw holes you won't come close to the console cutout.
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Thanks, that's good to know!
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Originally Posted by ddawson
Here is a great video from Paul as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaQwPQTenMg
Paul's videos are great. I rebuilt a Super T10, with no experience, just from watching his videos. Very informative.
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I always assumed GM moved the shifter to the frame mount,
to minimize vibrations from the transmission driveline.
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