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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 12:26 AM
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So a bit OT, but I have an opportunity to buy a '69 coupe less engine and trans (it's a stick car). It is a project, but the interior is decent.

I have a ready to go 425 horse dual quad 409 on a stand, with stock exhaust manifolds that is serialized for a '63 Impala.

Will it fit? I'm trying to sell the engine, but , hey, heres an option for me..

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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 12:47 AM
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Not sure if it will fit, but with the value of W blocks these days, you should sell it and purchase a more correct motor for your c3.

How much are are you asking and where are you at? I know somebody looking for a 348 or 409...
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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 01:38 AM
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It will fit. Funky but cool!

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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 10:02 AM
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Will the exhaust manifolds fit?
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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 06:05 PM
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Bring that to a show after you get the 409 in and watch all the vette guys scratching there heads would be fun.Most younger guys don't even know what a 409 looks like.

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Not sure if it will fit, but with the value of W blocks these days, you should sell it and purchase a more correct motor for your c3.

How much are are you asking and where are you at? I know somebody looking for a 348 or 409...
I'm actively trying to sell it on the 348-409 forum. It's a correct '63 engine, with repaired external block cracking, I'm currently getting it ready to run on a test stand to satisfy concerns related to that issue.

I'm in NorCal (Sacramento area), have your friend contact me. This was my heart engine, but my circumstances have changed and I doubt I'll ever get it into an Impala.

I'll take any reasonable offer. I originally listed it for $6500.00 because of the repairs. Like engines (without repairs ) trade for $8500- 12,000, but I will consider any real offer. It has the dual qual winters manifold, the header manifolds every one wants, correct heads and cam, distributor, etc...

Hans

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Bring that to a show after you get the 409 in and watch all the vette guys scratching there heads would be fun.Most younger guys don't even know what a 409 looks like.
I totally get that idea! And it makes big power, they have a real short stroke and rev up in a hurry. Big heavy pistons limited the early engines, but they make way better stuff now, alloy blocks and heads, better cams, etc...

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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 10:55 PM
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The 409s are worth a lot, have you tried selling it on the Impala forum? Just an idea
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A 409 in a C3 would be badass. Never seen one done and a 409 is so unique.
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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 11:57 PM
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I say go for it, it would be very cool. But we're all just spectators, there's nothing easier than spending someone elses money
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The only value in doing such a thing would be for its "novelty" effect. In all aspects, the W block engines were "turkeys" compared with a modern BB...or even a well worked SB engine.

The W block engine was designed to be a low-revving, high-torque engine for trucks. The only reason that GM used that block for late-50's/early-60's power was that it was readily available.

Before Chrysler developed their 413's and 426 hemi's, and before Ford developed their 427 engines, GM ruled with those 409's. Once Ford and Chrysler got in the game, 409's were "toast". Hence, GM's modern BB engines were designed.

If that well-built 409 engine is solid (considering the extent of block repairs), you should get a lot more for the engine from someone with a correct period car. If those folks aren't willing to risk that kind of money on a repaired/cracked block, you might find a buyer in someone with a museum car (which will never really work the engine) or with some novelty act like a 409 in a Corvette .
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Had a buddy years ago put that same engine in a 62,it was sweet. I think it went right in. I would think in a c3 it should be straightforward.
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With dual quads, and an air cleaner on top of them, I'd be careful of hood clearance....
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Back in the day, we put one with 2X4s in a 64 Convertible 4spd... looked cool , never really performed that well.
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A 409 is old enough and rare enough that most people will not appreciate it. It would probably kill the resale value of the car.
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You could also post this on the C2 forum to rattle some cages
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