'74 engine won't turn off
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'74 engine won't turn off
You can have a condition called "engine run-on" or "dieseling" where the engine can continue to run (poorly) without an ignition source. Essentially, there are some carbon deposits in the combustion chamber that stay hot enough to [barely] fire the air/fuel charge, once it is fully compressed at TDC. This was a common problem when engine timing was significantly retarded for emissions purposes. Car makers came up with 'creative' approaches to put a load on the engine so that it would shut down (not enough power generated when dieseling to overcome the applied load). For example: If the car had A/C, the compressor may have been engaged for a few seconds after the ignition was turned to OFF.
"Dieseling" is easily differentiated from a normal running engine, as it runs very poorly with spotty ignition firings, etc.
If the engine is running normally, power is getting to the ignition system somehow.
"Dieseling" is easily differentiated from a normal running engine, as it runs very poorly with spotty ignition firings, etc.
If the engine is running normally, power is getting to the ignition system somehow.
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8th Gear
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'74 engine won't turn off
You can have a condition called "engine run-on" or "dieseling" where the engine can continue to run (poorly) without an ignition source. Essentially, there are some carbon deposits in the combustion chamber that stay hot enough to [barely] fire the air/fuel charge, once it is fully compressed at TDC. This was a common problem when engine timing was significantly retarded for emissions purposes. Car makers came up with 'creative' approaches to put a load on the engine so that it would shut down (not enough power generated when dieseling to overcome the applied load). For example: If the car had A/C, the compressor may have been engaged for a few seconds after the ignition was turned to OFF.
"Dieseling" is easily differentiated from a normal running engine, as it runs very poorly with spotty ignition firings, etc.
If the engine is running normally, power is getting to the ignition system somehow.
"Dieseling" is easily differentiated from a normal running engine, as it runs very poorly with spotty ignition firings, etc.
If the engine is running normally, power is getting to the ignition system somehow.
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Very wierd. Never came across that one. I suspect there may be some 'adjustments' to the wiring which have allowed that to happen; but I do not know that it could not happen with correct wiring.
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Somebody has done something to the wiring somewhere...or the ignition circuit is touching the circuit he found to the culprit.
I have come across some Corvette where it is multiple problems that all link together to screw up the electrical system.
DUB
I have come across some Corvette where it is multiple problems that all link together to screw up the electrical system.
DUB
