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Old Nov 14, 2017 | 03:34 PM
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Found my batt. drain....crtsy./clock circuit. The crtsy. lights work properly so I assume the dead clock is my culprit.
Can I just cut the wire to the clock and if so where is the easiest spot to do this and which wire is it? I have the side cover off console and see a large wire loom coming down towards shifter that seems like it prolly has the gauge cluster wires in it...(wires are wrapped in black tape,about 20 of 'em).

Also. cigar lighter not working...any help for that please?

Is the 30amp breaker in fuse panel only for the windows(pwr. acccsy.)?

Thank you for any help folks!
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Old Nov 14, 2017 | 03:59 PM
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Hi Chigago Bob,the cigar lighter wire is Orange,the clockwire is on my 76 also Orange the 77 has a printed circuit for the cluster gauge,so isolate the plus pin on your clock with tape for a test run-greets Jürgen

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Old Nov 14, 2017 | 06:16 PM
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It looks like the clock wire on your 77 will be orange. These two links should help:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...g-diagram.html

http://repairs.willcoxcorvette.com/c...el-gauge-info/

I think the diagram of the circuit board is pictured from the backside, and the connector diagram is viewed as sitting in the drivers seat.

To verify before cutting the wire, maybe just unplug the connector to the center cluster?

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Old Nov 14, 2017 | 06:53 PM
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Usual failure of the clock is it just quits- You can confirm by pulling the CTSY/Clock fuse and testing for your current draw again.
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Old Nov 14, 2017 | 08:33 PM
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Usual failure of the clock is it just quits- You can confirm by pulling the CTSY/Clock fuse and testing for your current draw again.
Thank you Tim....yes, the clock has quit running and therefor why I thought maybe cause for batt. drain. Are you saying that if it quits working then it no longer draws current?
My certesy lights go out when door shut but test light still shows a drain....albeit test light is very dim...I'll put a meter on it and see just how much the draw is.
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Originally Posted by Chicago Bob
Thank you Tim....yes, the clock has quit running and therefor why I thought maybe cause for batt. drain. Are you saying that if it quits working then it no longer draws current?
My certesy lights go out when door shut but test light still shows a drain....albeit test light is very dim...I'll put a meter on it and see just how much the draw is.
Usually yes- clock dies, no drain- Pull the fuse and THEN test.
Do you have an aftermarket radio with a memory? Another point that could cause a draw? Disconnect the white plug from the alternator too- Not real uncommon for the regulator to cause a draw too.
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Originally Posted by TimAT
Usually yes- clock dies, no drain- Pull the fuse and THEN test.
Do you have an aftermarket radio with a memory? Another point that could cause a draw? Disconnect the white plug from the alternator too- Not real uncommon for the regulator to cause a draw too.
Sorry, maybe I haven't been very clear....I have already pulled the fuse to crtsy/clock...that is how I found my drain. With fuse back in the crtsy. lights do go out when door closed....but test light stays on(drain)....sooooo, I thought maybe the clock(since it is not moving)was the culprit for still causing the draw.
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Actually, if it is a Borg clock (electro-mechanical unit), it could fail from having carbon build-up on the contact points in the rewind mechanism. When carbon gets on the points, the resistance goes up. Eventually, the resistance gets so much that the solenoid will no longer fire. But, at the end of the 'last' rewind, the points would be in contact and passing current...just not enough to fire the solenoid. However, it would be plenty of current to drain the battery, and it would be ON constantly.

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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Actually, if it is a Borg clock (electro-mechanical unit), it could fail from having carbon build-up on the contact points in the rewind mechanism. When carbon gets on the points, the resistance goes up. Eventually, the resistance gets so much that the solenoid will no longer fire. But, at the end of the 'last' rewind, the points would be in contact and passing current...just not enough to fire the solenoid. However, it would be plenty of current to drain the battery, and it would be ON constantly.
Thanks 7T1vette. Do you know how I can tell if I have the Borg clock? My car is a May '76 build.

Sure wish I knew which wire to cut....guess I'll jus bite the bullet and pull the cluster to install a quartz clock(or maybe clean/oil existing one).
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Originally Posted by Chicago Bob
Sure wish I knew which wire to cut....guess I'll jus bite the bullet and pull the cluster to install a quartz clock(or maybe clean/oil existing one).
Fix it - get a quartz conversion - that is what I am doing this weekend on my 79 - cutting factory loom wires should be your last resort!!!
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Originally Posted by Lagonia
Fix it - get a quartz conversion - that is what I am doing this weekend on my 79 - cutting factory loom wires should be your last resort!!!
I agree....don't want no hack job.
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