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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 08:20 PM
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I'm looking at putting a 454 in my 1980 Corvette. I'm being told to make sure the oil pan is a big block corvette pan. Can anyone tell what the difference is, Thanks

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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 08:30 PM
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Small block pans fit on small blocks. Big block pans fit on big blocks. You need to do a LOT of homework before you begin this project.
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Old Jan 26, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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As opposed to what? What style is on your engine now? Chances are they are talking clearing the steering

The vettes had a 5qt pan with a single step in it (to clear the steering linkage mainly I would think) so you would also need a deeper sump with it. There were also the trap-door slosh baffle system and the drain plug is not in the center.

Chevelle also used a single step pan but I think they were only 4 qt


The BB vette pan is still available from GM

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https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-69-427-a.html

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I used a truck oil pan with a front pickup tube and baffled the pan. I snapped a few dimensions if they help.
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Since most every car creates more Gs breaking than accelerating I figured I would give it a try.
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^ yeah, but you NEED more oil when accelerating than braking

That said, I have known folks with race cars that caused oiling issues during hard braking.

Win some, lose some, some get rained out.
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the problem is the sump clearing the steering system,
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I didnt catch the word corvette in the OP's first post. Gave me the impression he was getting in over his head. My response was a little demeaning.
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My 70 LT-5 car came with a truck motor. I still have the pan w pump and pickup if needed. Cheap. $50
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Originally Posted by c3cruzn
I'm looking at putting a 454 in my 1980 Corvette. I'm being told to make sure the oil pan is a big block corvette pan. Can anyone tell what the difference is, Thanks

Gary
On my 468 I ended up running a Moroso street/strip pan with the kicked out sump in the back with the appropriate oil pump pickup. I believe it is a 6qt + 1qt in the filter pan. The problem is usually with the steering components (clearance), it starts to get pretty tight up there with everything in place.
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Truck pan from underside. FWIW. I have a jeep box going in so there is a little more space. Having said that, there seems to be plenty of room.
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You can still buy the correct 65-74 Corvette big block oil pan, direct from Chevrolet, or through any number of internet sources. This pan has the trap door, and comes with a windage tray, but not the tray's 4 mounting studs (the part number for the studs is 39022885).

The pan's part number is 14091356, and it will clear the power steering slave cylinder, because it was designed to be used with the 63-82 Corvette frame. The only difference between this pan, and the one that Chevrolet installed on Corvettes in the 60's and 70's, is there use to be reinforcement plates in the corners of the pan. GM must have found that the reinforcements weren't necessary, since they did away with them years ago.

Summit and others sell the pan for about $171.00.

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Originally Posted by derekderek
I didnt catch the word corvette in the OP's first post. Gave me the impression he was getting in over his head. My response was a little demeaning.
I'm not sure if this post was meant for me because my post clearly states Corvette. Two members get talking between post and off subject. I'm definitely not over my head. Wait till you see my next project and I cut the top off and make it a convertible.
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Jim (427Hotrod) posted a pan and part number a while back that works on the vette and has documented HP increases on the dyno to go with it. Its a Miladon pan but I don't remember the part number I thought the part number ended in 333 but I don't find a pan with a part number ending in 333, may have to get in touch with Jim.

Right now I'm running a cheap chrome pan with kick outs on both sides with no issues. When I had the stock steering it was close but worked, now I have R&P and it still works.

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