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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 04:07 AM
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Hi everybody!
Which cooling temperature range do you consider normal in a L36 1969 Corvette? Everything is stock, 180 °F thermostat
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 06:37 AM
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180-210 is normal.
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My 69' 427/400 with stock EVERYTHING ran at 190-205......100% original from GM except the 180 thermostat....which did nothing LOL.

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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 10:41 AM
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Thanks for your answers. My car stays about 15 degrees more, from 215 to 230... For sure I have to change the fan clutch. But I've also just changed the temp sensor so I have to check if it works properly, I thought that I could measure with IR on water pump...
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verify that the readings are correct with the IR.
do you get the 230 reading on the highway or at low speeds?
are all the seals between the radiator and the support still there?
is the seal between the radiator support and the hood still there?
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Old Dec 28, 2018 | 02:06 PM
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As is the Chin Spoiler.

Watch the bottom hose - they have a habit of collapsing.

The DeWitt's Radiator lowers temps by 15 to 20 degrees.
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Old Dec 29, 2018 | 07:10 AM
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Good morning! I checked with IR gun pointing the water pump, I read about 215 ° at idle, more or lees the same of the gauge, so the sensors is ok…
the radiator seems work because I read about 195° on the top of if and abput 135 ° on the bottom.
the fun clutch is gone but maybe it's not enought for justify the heating… I must to say that the ext temperature is quite cold here now, about 35-40 °F. I reacj 230° max just in sport drive and about 215 ° on highway at 70 mph
I didn't understand what do you mean with seals and spoiler, I post some pic…
Thank you!
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If you are looking for the factory run temp of about 200 degrees than everything folks have already advised should achieve that temp.

The hottest running SBC C3's, by far, were the 78-79/L-82's from the factory brand new temps of 225 normal and 235-240 on a hot day with AC on like my 78 which routinely ran those temps back in the day when new. After years and years of trial and error, replacing parts, I have found the answer for my car to run moderate operating temps dictated by the thermostat, not the engine. I changed nothing in the cooling system after the OEM L-82 was rebuilt/upgraded in 2014 with into a 425+ Gross HP/L-82 355 and the engine runs perfect at about 175-180 all year long regardless of temperature outside. What did I find and do over all those years:

1. Dewitts aluminum radiator
2. Stewart Stage 2 Aluminum water pump with Robertshaw Modified thermostat-holes in thermostat..you can drill your own in a regular thermostat.
3. A heavy duty cooling L-82 7 blade GM fan-my L-82 had this fan OEM
4, GM/AC Delco Heavy duty themostatically controlled fan clutch-NOT a regular fan clutch that does not engage/disengage with RPM's only
5. Factory chin spoiler
6. Important-1979 ONLY YEAR Option-Heavy duty cooling spoiler extension-I installed this spoiler extension bought from GM dealer in the early 90's and still on my 78 L-82.
7. Radiator seals and insulation on my 78 L-82 are all still there but OEM original and not in great shape. I have experimented with them over the years on their effect of the cooling system and it was marginal at best. Steps 1-6 are much MORE important than the seals/insulation (they are more important on a factory cooling system which is marginal).

I had to use a new thermostat with just 1 hole drilled since the engine would run too cool with the Robertshaw 3 hole thermostat. I run a 180 thermostat and the car runs exactly 180 degrees on the gauge. You can use one/none or all these steps to help your cooling.

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Originally Posted by Masfel74




You appear to be missing the seal between the hood and radiator support. I cannt see around the rest of the radiator but here is an example seal kit. If your fan clutch freely spins with the engine cold and off it should be replaced.
https://www.paragoncorvette.com/p-35...-seal-kit.aspx
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Thanks a lot. I'll go to change the fan clutch and put the seals where needed and let's see. I hope it'll be enough for erase the 15 degrees more that I have...
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Originally Posted by jb78L-82
If you are looking for the factory run temp of about 200 degrees than everything folks have already advised should achieve that temp.

The hottest running SBC C3's, by far, were the 78-79/L-82's from the factory brand new temps of 225 normal and 235-240 on a hot day with AC on like my 78 which routinely ran those temps back in the day when new. After years and years of trial and error, replacing parts, I have found the answer for my car to run moderate operating temps dictated by the thermostat, not the engine. I changed nothing in the cooling system after the OEM L-82 was rebuilt/upgraded in 2014 with into a 425+ Gross HP/L-82 355 and the engine runs perfect at about 175-180 all year long regardless of temperature outside. What did I find and do over all those years:

1. Dewitts aluminum radiator
2. Stewart Stage 2 Aluminum water pump with Robertshaw Modified thermostat-holes in thermostat..you can drill your own in a regular thermostat.
3. A heavy duty cooling L-82 7 blade GM fan-my L-82 had this fan OEM
4, GM/AC Delco Heavy duty themostatically controlled fan clutch-NOT a regular fan clutch that does not engage/disengage with RPM's only
5. Factory chin spoiler
6. Important-1979 ONLY YEAR Option-Heavy duty cooling spoiler extension-I installed this spoiler extension bought from GM dealer in the early 90's and still on my 78 L-82.
7. Radiator seals and insulation on my 78 L-82 are all still there but OEM original and not in great shape. I have experimented with them over the years on their effect of the cooling system and it was marginal at best. Steps 1-6 are much MORE important than the seals/insulation (they are more important on a factory cooling system which is marginal).

I had to use a new thermostat with just 1 hole drilled since the engine would run too cool with the Robertshaw 3 hole thermostat. I run a 180 thermostat and the car runs exactly 180 degrees on the gauge. You can use one/none or all these steps to help your cooling.
Where did you find a sending unit that is correct for the factory gauge? I can't find one.
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Old Dec 31, 2018 | 12:27 PM
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On www.rockauto.com, there are different brands, I took acdelco
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Originally Posted by Masfel74
On www.rockauto.com, there are different brands, I took acdelco
When I replaced the heads on my 79 I replaced the sending unit. Read too high. Bought one from Lectric Limited that was supposed to be correct, paid a machine shop to turn the threads down and it reads too high, also. Maybe I'll try one more time.
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Old Dec 31, 2018 | 07:08 PM
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I checked with IR gun pointing outside the water pump and the sensor seems work good...

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Originally Posted by Capt. Shark
Where did you find a sending unit that is correct for the factory gauge? I can't find one.
I had my engine builder tap the AFR heads for the OEM sending unit and reused the original GM one which is what is installed currently.
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If you hold the engine at a steady 2-300rpm for 15-20 seconds if your bottom hose is collapsing then youll see it.

taking a water hose and from the backside blasting the gunk out of the fins makes a big difference. Youd be surprised how much stuff gets packed inside there. Do it once a yr on all my cars, fan clutch comes on less often and ac seems to like it
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Old Jan 1, 2019 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jb78L-82
I had my engine builder tap the AFR heads for the OEM sending unit and reused the original GM one which is what is installed currently.
Like a dummy, I sold the old heads with the OEM sending unit still installed. Dammit
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Originally Posted by Capt. Shark
Like a dummy, I sold the old heads with the OEM sending unit still installed. Dammit
You might want to try Willcox Corvette..I have heard good things about their sending units...call them or send them a note.
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Originally Posted by jb78L-82
You might want to try Willcox Corvette..I have heard good things about their sending units...call them or send them a note.
They very honestly told me their sending units would not be correct, either. They make a gizmo to dial back the needle from the back of the gauge but I really do not want to remove that dash panel. I just live with it reading about 20* high.
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