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Old May 23, 2019 | 06:23 PM
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I have a standard timing light and setting the initial timing is no problem. My major confusion is how does one set up total timing for 34 to 36 degrees. I have been all over U Tube Videos and the selection is poor at best. I see the the more advanced timing lights being used but there seems to be a missing link as far as explaining how to set the total timing. can somebody please explain how this is done. My harmonic balancer has only one mark for setting initial timing. I am running a 1977 350 L82 4 speed. Thanks!!
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Contact LARS (Forum Member) and get a copy of his article and papers.
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Originally Posted by C3FIXER
I have a standard timing light and setting the initial timing is no problem. My major confusion is how does one set up total timing for 34 to 36 degrees. I have been all over U Tube Videos and the selection is poor at best. I see the the more advanced timing lights being used but there seems to be a missing link as far as explaining how to set the total timing. can somebody please explain how this is done. My harmonic balancer has only one mark for setting initial timing. I am running a 1977 350 L82 4 speed. Thanks!!
You need to mark your harmonic damper so you can read off the timing. The easiest way to do this is to with a timing tape.
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Old May 23, 2019 | 09:23 PM
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The easy answer is to get the INNOVA timing light that is adjustable! Its around 80 bucks. Shows rpm too. You will not be sorry!
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Just put a 36-degree mark on your balancer and use it for total timing. It's very easy to put a 36-degree mark on a 360-degree circle... Just measure the circumference of your balancer and divide the number you get by 10. Place a mark that distance clockwise (as seen from the front) from your existing timing mark.Set your total timing off the new mark and you're good to go!

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Originally Posted by lars
Just put a 36-degree mark on your balancer and use it for total timing. It's very easy to put a 36-degree mark on a 360-degree circle... Just measure the circumference of your balancer and divide the number you get by 10. Place a mark that distance clockwise (as seen from the front) from your existing timing mark.Set your total timing off the new mark and you're good to go!

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I am not as smart as Lars. So I spent the money!!
You might inquire as to his vacuum can recommendations as I did.
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Thanks again Lars.
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When racing back in the 70's we didn't have those fancy dial-back timing lights with inductive pickups Those of us doing tuning always carried a sewing measuring tape in our tool boxes - remember those yellow fabric measuring tapes your grandmother had in her sewing box rolled up in a roll? I believe I stole mine from my mother... You could tell the guys who knew how to tune if they had a sewing tape in their toolbox... (I still have mine)

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Put tdc mark at 15 tdc. Paint mark at TDC with white out. Move that mark to 15. Make another white out mark at TDC. Now you have tdc, 15btdc and 30btdc Mark's. When 30 is at 6, you got 36. Lars way works too...
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Also, dont just check at 3000. Watch mark with light and rev til it stops advancing.
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If you have to rev past 3K your springs are too stiff.
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Yes, but you need to know if they are.
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Get Lars to send yo all his papers. And yes. Dont stop when you hit 36* or 3000 rpm . You dont want to be getting more than 36* and more than 50* with the vacuum advance attached.
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