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Old May 21, 2020 | 04:56 PM
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had to replace the starter on my 1977, so I was told the engine in this is out of a 69 Vette. I replaced the starter with a remanufactured starter for a 69. The swap of the starter starter seemed easy enough, however it seems to be taking a lot more time to fire up than it did before and does not sound great. Any advice?
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Old May 21, 2020 | 05:06 PM
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have to make sure to clean everthing real good to get a proper ground did the starter come with a new solenoid? i thought my original starter was bad but durring testing just needed a solenoid
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Old May 21, 2020 | 05:13 PM
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Yes came with new solenoid. The actually housing for the starter cracked on the old one which is why I needed a new one.
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Old May 21, 2020 | 05:26 PM
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more time to fire up. cranks longer before it catches? what distributor? 77 HEI or points from the 69? you could have the R unhooked which gives hotter spark when cranking with points.
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Old May 21, 2020 | 05:32 PM
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Big Block or Small Block? I have a 71 with a 454 in it. The starter is one heavy block of metal. The Big Block one is mounted with the two front bolts up into the block but it has a support that bolts to the back and is attached to the block. I am pretty sure on that same attachment is a ground wire which grounds the block to the chassis.. If you have the same setup, make sure this got reconnected. If it is not, it will definitely cause problems for you.
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Old May 21, 2020 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by matt.sos
Yes came with new solenoid. The actually housing for the starter cracked on the old one which is why I needed a new one.
if you cracked the nose housing you probably are missing the brace that supports the front end of the starter.
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Old May 21, 2020 | 06:03 PM
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If yours has the larger (168T) flywheel / staggered starter bolt pattern ... and NO ignition points ... this one @ $56 delivered
https://www.dbelectrical.com/product...sdr0019-l.html


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Old May 21, 2020 | 06:09 PM
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and virtually all c3's have the 168 tooth flywheel and 3510 starter.
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Old May 21, 2020 | 08:51 PM
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If you have a BBC, it came with an iron nose, because if it backfires with an aluminum nose, it will snap off. Ask TimAT
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Old May 22, 2020 | 01:30 AM
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https://m.autozone.com/batteries-sta..._242645_0?aqs=

this is the starter I put in, looks like a cast iron nose. It’s a 350 5.7 L engine.
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Old May 22, 2020 | 06:36 AM
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that is not the starter you used. that is for a small flywheel 6 cyl or 305-307 car. yours looks like this and is aluminum nose... https://www.summitracing.com/parts/p...hoCJooQAvD_BwE
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That starter motor has no spacer between the solenoid and the electrical tab that goes into the motor. Those are for small displacement low power applications. It won't turn over a healthy 350 worth a damn. You need to find a starter with a spacer in there because the motor is longer and more powerful. You'll know the spacer when you see it. The tab is away from the solenoid so it needs a spacer tube and longer screw to connect the two togeher. I don't recall the distance offhand but it's maybe 3/4" or so.

Are you sure you have the straight across bolt pattern, not the staggered bolt pattern? If you do, you could also go for a mini starter from a mid 90's LT1 application.

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Old May 22, 2020 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jackson
If yours has the larger (168T) flywheel / staggered starter bolt pattern ... and NO ignition points ... this one @ $56 delivered
https://www.dbelectrical.com/product...sdr0019-l.html
I went with one just like this from ebay about 5/6 years back and no issues.. I wrapped it To protect from heat from my sidepipes and the smaller size gives more clearence technically my block came from a 76 gmc 2500 truck (not that is changes anything here)

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Old May 22, 2020 | 09:17 AM
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Go with a 5323 CVR starter and never touch it again......20 lbs. lighter and half the size.

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Old May 22, 2020 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
That starter motor has no spacer between the solenoid and the electrical tab that goes into the motor. Those are for small displacement low power applications. It won't turn over a healthy 350 worth a damn. You need to find a starter with a spacer in there because the motor is longer and more powerful. You'll know the spacer when you see it. The tab is away from the solenoid so it needs a spacer tube and longer screw to connect the two togeher. I don't recall the distance offhand but it's maybe 3/4" or so.

Are you sure you have the straight across bolt pattern, not the staggered bolt pattern? If you do, you could also go for a mini starter from a mid 90's LT1 application.

the starter I sent in the link above was the exact same starter I pulled out, and yes the bolt pattern lines up, I will say there is basically no clearance between the nose cone and engine housing.
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Old May 22, 2020 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by matt.sos
the starter I sent in the link above was the exact same starter I pulled out, and yes the bolt pattern lines up, I will say there is basically no clearance between the nose cone and engine housing.
Not a problem there. It is possible.
Do you have the brace?
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Old May 22, 2020 | 01:16 PM
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Are you running points? How are the cables?
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Originally Posted by matt.sos
the starter I sent in the link above was the exact same starter I pulled out, and yes the bolt pattern lines up, I will say there is basically no clearance between the nose cone and engine housing.
That doesn't mean it was the right starter for your application. I'm just telling you why the new starter is lacking the torque to properly spin over your engine.
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This would be the DBElectric one I would use.

https://www.dbelectrical.com/product...sdr0020-l.html

You also need the correct bolts when changing to a mini-starter.
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This is the spacer Lionel is talking about.
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