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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 12:51 PM
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Good afternoon, finally at the stage where I’d like to send my carb off to Lars for a rebuild. I knew this nut could be an issue so I bought a brand new husky 5/8 flare nut wrench and 1” wrench. I made sure both were seated properly and applied pressure until of course it rounded off. I guess at this point I’ve no choice but to cut the metal fuel line? Assuming I can remove the bottom one at the fuel pump will it drain gas from the tank?
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There's still a lot of meat left on it for a Vise Grip. Give that a try.

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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ClothSeats
There's still a lot of meat left on it for a Vise Grip. Give that a try.
Already tried, I can keep chewing away at it. Can’t believe how tight it is, almost like a one pice unit. Used plenty of pb blaster
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 01:12 PM
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Place your vice grip on the rubber inlet hose to the pump and remove the steel line, that upper nut is worthless at this point so replace the line.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 01:14 PM
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Try tapping on the flats of the flare nut with a blunt nose punch to help it loosen up. Don’t let the large filter nut turn it strips out easily.

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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 01:46 PM
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Vise grips for the win! Looks like a new metal line is in order now. Happy the filter housing came off without drama. Looking at the vendors seems you can get the line in steel or stainless, any recommendations?
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Nothing wrong with steel, but if the new line is already cut to length and flared, then stainless is even better. You wouldn't want to cut and flare stainless yourself. It's very hard to work with.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 03:19 PM
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Heat and GOOD vice grips, very tight grip.
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If you cut the line at the carb you should not have fuel leaking Out the pipe as it is higher than the fuel tank, although it may depend on how full you tank is creating pressure to the line. In any case it could be capped easily to contain the fuel.

once it's cut off you can put a six point socket on the nut.
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This type of vice grips work better in removing rounded nuts, than the standard vice grips:

https://www.zoro.com/irwin-vise-grip...lw/i/G1681906/

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Originally Posted by Always5s
. Looking at the vendors seems you can get the line in steel or stainless, any recommendations?
Stainless has advantages and disadvantages. Stainless doesn't rust and looks good long term, but it cost more, galls and work hardens. I have not seen the line from the pump to the engine rust. So, in my mind, the only benefit to SS with that section of line is looks. The work hardening makes it hard to work with. Flaring and tweaking the bends is difficult. and getting it to seal is an issue. You car, your money, your choice, but I probably run a carbon steel line there.

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Problem with vise grips is that if you set it too tight, you'll goose-egg the nut and be worse off than before. Been there, done that, shirt doesn't fit anymore.
Cut the line and take out the big nut and start from scratch.
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Lars had a paper on how to make your own line......worth a look.

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Originally Posted by mark79,80
This type of vice grips work better in removing rounded nuts, than the standard vice grips:

https://www.zoro.com/irwin-vise-grip...lw/i/G1681906/
this...hold the larger nut..its tight..
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The OP used vise grips and got it off back in Post #6. Now he's going to put on a new line from the pump up to the carb. To the OP, I'd go with the regular steel line as opposed to the stainless steel. My original steel line is almost 50 years old and still looks fine. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by mark79,80
This type of vice grips work better in removing rounded nuts, than the standard vice grips:

https://www.zoro.com/irwin-vise-grip...lw/i/G1681906/
Do not use a regular vise grip!!!!! THIS Special nut/bolt head Vise Grip is the greatest TOOL made...BUY 2^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. I have never stripped a bolt or nut using this tool...NEVER!
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Originally Posted by 2mnyvets
... The work hardening makes it hard to work with. Flaring and tweaking the bends is difficult. and getting it to seal is an issue. You car, your money, your choice, but I probably run a carbon steel line there.
This!

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Originally Posted by Always5s
Looking at the vendors seems you can get the line in steel or stainless, any recommendations?
Use a standard, mild steel line - skip the stainless. The steel line will seal with lower nut torque, will not gall, and will cause you much less grief than the SS. There is a reason the factory used mild steel lines on all pressure lines on the car...

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