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my neck of the woods is saying anywhere from 2"-20". the average for the weathermen is about 8" or so. Boston itself is going to get blasted apparently. On that note I dont have a functional engine either, It muddied itself In JKippins driveway....I might just be a coincidence but I cant say for sure. But I am hoping for that 427 build for myself!!!!
we are supposed to get 8-12”, and high winds. Roads are already salted in some areas, so my car is stuffed in the garage. I’ve got a few projects to keep me busy until the nicer weather, but I hope Santa brings you that 427
otherwise, I changed the oil in the Ariens, and I’m ready.
I called Silversport transmissions and they said that both versions have a 600 ft lb rating. I’m thinking about this even more so now because it would bolt right up with the same 3.27 1st gear. They are taking pre orders.
I called Silversport transmissions and they said that both versions have a 600 ft lb rating. I’m thinking about this even more so now because it would bolt right up with the same 3.27 1st gear. They are taking pre orders.
It would be nice to do a group buy......maybe we can put something together as a group without offending anyone.... maybe the moderators could enlighten us on how to do this.
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I would be into that. I need to upgrade my McLeod 5 speed for a higher torque tranny. It seems almost all the 5 speeds are 500 ft\lbs except for the TKO600, now the TKX gives us a better option
I would be into saving a few bucks
Last edited by Rescue Rogers; Dec 26, 2020 at 06:33 PM.
I'm over 20 years and 100,000 miles with 4.11 and .64 OD. Even with the 2.87 first gear is so nice to take off from just above idle. I have tried two flywheel weights 22 pound 168 tooth 11 inch clutch steel SFI and 11.5 pound aluminum 168 tooth 11 inch SFI. I'm going to change back to the 22 pound when I stuff my refreshed 434 back in. The machine shop said that the block was ready for pickup.
Even with 4.11 the 4 - 5th jump is big! So it is not good for road racing. I had to buy a spare rea end and build it with 3.55 gears for road racing and use it as a 4 speed. Most tracks once you are moving you only use 3 gears. So 3.55 I used just 2-3-4 and my top speed was limited to mid 150's. So it would be into the rev limiter before the braking zone.
street driving with 3.55 .64 OD was about worthless and I kinda had to be going over say 85 to cruise and have a happy engine. The western states are mountainess, so you had to go 85 to not shift down on the freeways. 252/256 solid roller cam 11.7 C/R Idle hot is 1050 -1100 rpm.
I don't see 235 cc dragon slayer heads. 225 cc and about 302 cfm intake and 200 something exhaust. That kinda limits the HP. on the Wallace racing calculator. As a example and I think that Skip White motors exaggerates power level figures, or they have the one special motor for the dyno sheet. But read the specs on what they have for cams and heads to get the 600+ hp SBCs that they sell.
As to using a 930 cfm carb on a little 400 ci motor. It's not needed. I have bench flowed 830 cfm custom pro built and I never felt a need for bigger. You have to look at the big picture and where is the restriction. Big plenum single planes use less CFM carbs. I also recommend the 4 hole wood thermal spacer to give the carb boosters the biggest signal. A rated 930 cfm with annular boosters would be a excellent choice. I also just use the stock A/C Delco mech pump with .160 titanium needle and seats with just over 5 psi in my fuel log. Never run out even in the one mile drag races at the airport where I went through at 167 or something like that years ago.
hey George!! :-) going good I hope my brother... merry Christmas.
cruising the thread... you agree the 22 lb flywheel is amazing...
Now... I’m gonna tell this guy I have that power... and...
Originally Posted by Rescue Rogers
But you probably aren't running around with 600ftlbs + of torque on tap either. torque makes it possible to have 3.08 and 3.36 gear ratios. We aren't talking about some little 383 small block....its an 8 liter small block!!!! a literal monster in sheeps clothing, this thing is going to rip your face off, show it to you, tear it into small pieces and shove it down your throat kind of power...I think it's closer to 700 ftlbs. he's looking for launch power and cruising fuel mileage....might get into double digits with the .64, maybe. But it's going to be sucking fuel through a garden hose at idle so every little chance to be in a low rpm is a good idea if the gas stations are more than a few miles apart.
.... and yea I have that power.... next you’ll need a $4-6,000 rear end:-) and a transmission that will hold it...
then... yea then:-) 1st 2nd and 3rd are a joke:-) on any tread ware above 200 you can lay down a sustained burnout at 70mph... so you run sub 100 and only partly burn 3rd... so then you go inverse trailing arms for a few more inches of rubber... then mostly it just first and second unless your in a corner on the track then, away she can spin.... last dyno 538 at the rear wheels... sbc naturally aspirated 6500/7000 shift torque comes in strong at 2000 rpm... at or sub 3000lbs... it’s a rocket ship :-)
oh... and whoever brought up the centerforce duel friction clutch
It’s a piece of junk...
seriously, think about it... how does an off set weight center it self? Answer... it doesn’t!!! So you add vibration to your drive train for some cheesy weights
do a web search on it :-)
peace
Last edited by pauldana; Dec 27, 2020 at 01:26 AM.
Hey pauldana how are you, welcome back! I haven't seen you on here in alooong time. I lost your number the last time we spoke you had been between classes and just got the dyno
I tried a Center Force years ago and well it didn't work well then lasted a very short time. When I spoke to their customer service it was horrible so I will never recommend on to anyone. That was about 1989 or so maybe they have gotten better but I will never find out.
Hey pauldana how are you, welcome back! I haven't seen you on here in alooong time. I lost your number the last time we spoke you had been between classes and just got the dyno
I tried a Center Force years ago and well it didn't work well then lasted a very short time. When I spoke to their customer service it was horrible so I will never recommend on to anyone. That was about 1989 or so maybe they have gotten better but I will never find out.
Hey brother!!1:-) yea, been a while,, got caught up over in the political section last 4 years or so.. don't think I'll be there much for the next 4 years:-) lol
came over here to post a merry Christmas on a merry Christmas thread, but found none... this thread looked interesting.. :-)
littlemouse still around? 2broke2think ever come back? gosh... I need to say hi to all the old guys like me:-) and Merry Christmas to everyone!!!! and a very very happy new years!!
Originally Posted by Corvettedave02
My center force didn’t work well either
sales hype is great... common sense says those weights will never center,, and they don't
And nobody every likes to admit they got scamed:-) lol
Oh........ and for the od question... .64 sucks... do the .82... better for racing I did the .64,,, mistake, but I can go 200mph with it:-)
Last edited by pauldana; Dec 27, 2020 at 11:28 PM.
Yes I keep going back and forth on 1st gear ratios, cruise rpm, and gear split rpm drops.
Probably not going to be able to make up my mind until I drive/ride in someone's and see how that combo is.
My 3;55 geared Muncie LT1 cruised fine at 3000 rpm, at 70. It didn't mind a 3500 rpm cruise but the oil would heat up after 15 min and oil pressure would drop. But it was always "intense"
I am looking for a much more relaxed cruise (with BBC 550 TQ) I think 1900 would be fine. Just worried about resonance noise if I go lower. And don't know if I want that rpm at 60 or 70.
If I go for that at 60 I can at least use 5th gear from there up. It's only 2400 at 70 then. That combo could be had with a TKX CR with a .81 OD and a 3.36.
Might be just fine there.
And then the 2500 rpm shifts fall to 1600,1600,1900,2000. Not bad. That's one of the things that made the CR Muncie so nice, the gear drops got smaller as you went thru the gears.
That's George's problem too. With the WR he has only 2000 at 70. And wants to drop that 2000rpm down to 60-65 or so. Will take at least 4.11s for him with his .64OD.
Not to take this off topic but I went from sweet thunder to the vettepack chambered inserts and the "drone" was greatly reduced at all rpms for me.. So your friend might just need to find the right inserts that dont resonate so much at his desired rpm. Granted I havent swapped out my th400 yet.
Anybody get one of these yet?
I am in the market soon.
NEWS UPDATE:
I just got off the phone with Jeff at SilverSport late yesterday.
Tremec list 3 versions of the TKX, with 3 gear sets.
But only one is being produced at the present time. The CR 2.87 1st & .68 OD one.
SilverSport now has these in stock on the shelf and can deliver in a couple weeks.
The other two variations are not yet being produced yet, and there is no information on an expected availability date either.
The TKX version available works very nicely with a 3.70 rear gear.
It would have a 10.6 overall gear in 1st gear, along with a 2200 rpm cruise at 70 mph.
And the older TKO is no longer in production either. So there is only one option at the present time.
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Last edited by leigh1322; Mar 6, 2021 at 09:58 AM.
I just got my TKX 5 speed yesterday from American Powertrain. After waiting 3 months from order. The drive shaft and yoke are still not in but at least I can get started. Just installed the hydramax clutch master cylinder since I’m also converting to a hydraulic clutch. I have to say, American Powertrain has not been the easiest to work with due to lack of communication. I was never informed the shaft was a separate direct ship after waiting months and planning my schedule for beginning the work just to wait more time now. I’m also missing other small parts with the system. I’ll post as I install and first drive.
So I got it in and will be test driving very soon. One thing I’ve noticed is the lack clearance in the shifter cut out of the console. When going to 5th or reverse it smacks the edge of the cut out.