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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 05:58 PM
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So when I bought my Vette I was told it has a built 383 Stroker motor making 505 to the crank. But recently I have come to doubt that. I took it to the drag strip and was only running 14.6s however my carburetor was messed up. Since then I have fixed it however I have not been back to the strip to see. So my question is how can I tell if it’s actually a 383 Stroker?
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So when I bought my Vette I was told it has a built 383 Stroker motor making 505 to the crank. But recently I have come to doubt that. I took it to the drag strip and was only running 14.6s however my carburetor was messed up. Since then I have fixed it however I have not been back to the strip to see. So my question is how can I tell if it’s actually a 383 Stroker?
14.6? Wanna race a 82 CF? Put it on a dyno and do a pull or two, it will tell you real fast what its got or not.
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Perhaps start by taking some photos? One of the smarter members might be able to tell with a borescope, either by looking at the crank through the oil drain hole, or measuring the stroke through a spark plug hole.

But please start with the engine stamp pad.
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and the harmonic balancer and see if you can see the starter wheel or flywheel through the starter hole. if is is externally balanced, and most are, you will see counterweights on the balancer and flywheel. you might be able to get piston at tdc, put a piece of coat hanger on top of piston, mark the hanger at the edge of the plug hole and crank the engine slowly so the piston and hanger go to BDC then mark the hanger again. may be able to tell 3.48 from 3.75 inch of travel.
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So when I bought my Vette I was told it has a built 383 Stroker motor making 505 to the crank. But recently I have come to doubt that. I took it to the drag strip and was only running 14.6s however my carburetor was messed up. Since then I have fixed it however I have not been back to the strip to see. So my question is how can I tell if it’s actually a 383 Stroker?
my zz383 with ~ 400crank Hp did 13.2 @2200ft started @ 14.4 before carb tuning and timing

i had afr gauges to tune the carb and a MSD controller for programable timing

any stamp. / number on the engine

my zz383 had a GM serial tag
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Old Jun 28, 2021 | 02:08 PM
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Any paperwork on that "500 HP" 383? If not, then who knows what it really is.
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Old Jun 28, 2021 | 02:39 PM
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So when I bought my Vette I was told it has a built 383 Stroker motor making 505 to the crank. But recently I have come to doubt that. I took it to the drag strip and was only running 14.6s however my carburetor was messed up. Since then I have fixed it however I have not been back to the strip to see. So my question is how can I tell if it’s actually a 383 Stroker?

One quick way if it's a cheaper externality balanced. The damper is drilled for external balancing
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Will be taking it to the dyno in the upcoming weeks to see for sure
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Well....if it is making 500hp.....it has a fairly hot cam and a very good flowing set of heads......also at least an Air-Gap style intake.....What size carb?
If it has premium components on it like that then most likely it is a 383..........also, look at the balancer for a notch cut out of the outer shell, holes drilled as previously stated, and/or a weight bolted on the hub.
Don't get too crazy about it......the only difference between a 355 and a 383 is .270 inch of stroke.....focus on getting it running properly. A warm 350 will run 14.60's......something is off.

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Old Jun 28, 2021 | 03:32 PM
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A 383ci making 500HP would be a little radical. If it idles smooth then you are not making that HP. As others have said it is an externally balanced engine and you should be able to look at balancer and figure it out. I know everything is 800+HP these days but it it is still hard to hit 500HP N/A with a 383ci and have a nice driver.
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Old Jun 28, 2021 | 03:41 PM
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Put a vacuum garage on it and share how much vacuum it pulls at idle, then share a bunch of pictures of the engine, intake, heads, balancer, etc. we can give you a pretty good idea.
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Carb is a 670 Holley Street avenger. Will post pictures later. As well as try to look at everything y’all said to look at.
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Get a better carb and a proper tune.
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You can buy internally and externally balanced 383 kits. If it really made 505 hp at the crank it would need quite a large cam. I don't think a 670 cfm will get you 505 hp. I would ask for the dyno sheets if the previous owner did have it on an engine dyno. I would ask for the engine build sheet with cam specs.
Got to start with the basics. Check the timing curve. Check base timing and at full advance. Check fuel pressure. Do a compression check. Make sure you are getting fully opening carb blades at full throttle. Make sure your ignition system is up to snuff. Check spark pugs.
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Wait this is the car with the blue flex fan with no clutch and improperly wired electric fan in front of it and no shroud right?... I'm going to say the previous owner just wanted to believe it had 505hp and its not been tested...
as far as the 670 size having any real noticable effect on hp numbers... when you use any type of dyno software there is maybe 12hp difference at WOT between a 670 and a 750.. Its just not going to be the game changing factor here unless your looking for that 12hp

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Wait this is the car with the blue flex fan with no clutch and improperly wired electric fan in front of it and no shroud right?... I'm going to say the previous owner just wanted to believe it had 505hp and its not been tested...
Yep sure is. That’s why I’m trying to get to the bottom of it to know how I need to go about working on it
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Originally Posted by Ethan_Hensley
Yep sure is. That’s why I’m trying to get to the bottom of it to know how I need to go about working on it
I dont even think thats an rpm intake just the plain ole low profile performer.... Id pull a valve cover and see what the rocker/spring setup looks like and if those are OEM chevy iron heads.. So far I see nothing that indicates big money in this engine.. everything looks economical and budget minded which doesnt mean its not a 383 but I'd bet the farm its no where near 500hp.

I do see a block off plate where the fuel pump would be so theres got to be an electric fuel pump.

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I dont even think thats an rpm intake just the plain ole low profile performer.... Id pull a valve cover and see what the rocker/spring setup looks like and if those are OEM chevy iron heads..
All I really know about the intake is it says Edelbrock and Performer. Haven’t really gone that in depth with taking stuff apart for fear of some of that bubba work not working anymore afterwords.
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Engine stamp says 3970010 at the back and has a “World” stamps with 03/15 on the front.
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