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Hello forum, I bought a 69 about 6 months ago and it has a strange combination of an old Torker 1 intake with an Edelbrock carb. My goal is to ditch that set up and get back to a semi-correct looking setup with a Quadrajet. I have a Quadrajet on it's way back to me from Lars which he has rebuilt for me (I am excited). I need an intake and was going to get an Edelbrock 2101 but I am also considering a Weiand 8125. Need this to fit under stock sb hood and would like to use a correct air filter with it. Does anyone have any advice on other suitable intake manifolds?
no longer in production but Weiand Action+Plus pn 8004 is quite similar to EB 2101 but performs better. fleabay amazombie swap meets etc.
the ZZ4 intake is good as well.
I ran the Torker on my 350/350 for many years with a stock hood and was very happy with it. Not sure what you mean by your goal as states (semi-correct) so why spend the money for another non-stock intake that you may not notice much difference in performance?
that correct intake is cast iron with the smile exhaust heat passage. you do not want that intake unless car is being judged. paint any dual plane aluminum intake orange and few will have any idea it is not original.
Its hard to fit a high rise under a stock Vette hood. Not sure how much additional room you have now on your '69 but you can measure it with a piece of crumpled foil in a few places on top of your air cleaner.
The ZZ4 is .5" taller than my '80 aluminum L-82 stock intake. I measured about 5/8" clearance under hood as-is 100% stock. Theoretically, it might work but 1/8" clearance VERY close.
I'm in the same boat. I'm putting in a ZZ383 in my 72 and I want to keep my hood. I got the Speedmaster low rise. Its the lowest available with a 4.25 carb hgt.
My carb is an Edlb 1407. The air cleaner is still TBD. Once its in I'll figure it out but I should have room for a 2" filter at least.
BTW
I did the alum foil thing and had about 1 1/2" above the stock AC
Last edited by 0311 jarhead; Aug 29, 2021 at 12:54 PM.
you could always run the intake that currently fits under the hood. but performer and rpm both work with dropped base filters. then you can run the OE top and nobody will know but you.
you could always run the intake that currently fits under the hood. but performer and rpm both work with dropped base filters. then you can run the OE top and nobody will know but you.
I've already got the Speedmaster on the motor. I tried using a 12 bolt mani and it dont fit right. I got the SM mani tight as a glove now. I'm commited to the edle carb so
once I have the motor in I can pick out the air cleaner. I think theres plenty of room for a stock air clean . Every thing is painted chev orange but the headers will give it away.
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If you want your choke to work, you have to use a manifold with divorced choke coil mounting provision. The 10185063 is set up for integral choke hot air, and cannot be used with a '69 divorced choke carb.
As Shark notes above, the The EDL-2101 is a good manifold, and it is compatible with a mounting plate that allows use of the divorced choke system. You will need to obtain the coil, coil cover, and rod to hook it all up, and you'll need to spend the time to assure that the rod is customized to the correct length. Edelbrock makes a divorced choke coil kit:
...and this must be mounted to the divorced choke adapter on the 2101 manifold:
The stock 1969 divorced choke system looks like this:
Originally Posted by jim2527
Late 70's aluminum L82 intake?
Those are good stock manifolds, but same problem as noted above: They are set up for an M4M carb with hot air integral choke, and cannot be used with a 4MV divorced choke carb.
Go 2101.....I like to block the heat riser but then your choke will take a while to open. Since you are in AR., I would probably disable the choke and run the 1204 gasket as it keeps the base of the intake about 100 degrees cooler....this is just me though. In the warmer states, it is easy to boil fuel and doing whatever you can to keep heat down away from the carb bowl is helpful.....it will make a little power too.
I have had very good luck using 77-79 Q-Jets with an electric choke conversion.......I did a 72' 350/200 with S/R heads, and long tube headers...mild unknown cam, 4 speed...and this car was a blast to drive.....lotsa torque.
I agree on the 8004 though......it was the intake shootout winner for like 20 years until Edelbrock redesigned the Performer.
The Torker 2 is a strange piece.......some get them to work.....I had one on a 350 in an S-10 in 1991 with a Holley 4010......it ran good, but ran better when I put a dual plane on it. They do not flow well upstares either.....they are not terrible intake, but one whose time has passed.
If you want your choke to work, you have to use a manifold with divorced choke coil mounting provision. The 10185063 is set up for integral choke hot air, and cannot be used with a '69 divorced choke carb.
As Shark notes above, the The EDL-2101 is a good manifold, and it is compatible with a mounting plate that allows use of the divorced choke system. You will need to obtain the coil, coil cover, and rod to hook it all up, and you'll need to spend the time to assure that the rod is customized to the correct length. Edelbrock makes a divorced choke coil kit:
...and this must be mounted to the divorced choke adapter on the 2101 manifold:
The stock 1969 divorced choke system looks like this:
Those are good stock manifolds, but same problem as noted above: They are set up for an M4M carb with hot air integral choke, and cannot be used with a 4MV divorced choke carb.
Lars
I have a ZZ4 (GM# 10185063) on my engine for the last 4 years and am using the Edelbrock divorced choke mounting kit. Everything works just fine starting and running wise. IMHO, the GENERAL contracted Edelbrock to manufactor the ZZ4 manifold for them and added the EGR mount. I could be wrong, but looking closely the at the photos I posted, the manifolds appear identical to me, with the exception of the EGR mount.
I have a ZZ4 (GM# 10185063) on my engine for the last 4 years and am using the Edelbrock divorced choke mounting kit. Everything works just fine starting and running wise. IMHO, the GENERAL contracted Edelbrock to manufactor the ZZ4 manifold for them and added the EGR mount. I could be wrong, but looking closely the at the photos I posted, the manifolds appear identical to me, with the exception of the EGR mount.
If you look at them side by side in the 360 views, it’s clear that they are very similar but not identical. The ZZ4 has some more ridges, and the vacuum tree off the #8 intake runner is in a different spot between the two.
Originally Posted by 0311 jarhead
So because with the bowtie logo its worth 130 bucks more??
The low volume/extra cost of the EGR port is a portion of it. The Edelbrock 3701 (EGR capable) shrinks but does not close the gap between the two in terms of price.
If you look at them side by side in the 360 views, it’s clear that they are very similar but not identical. The ZZ4 has some more ridges, and the vacuum tree off the #8 intake runner is in a different spot between the two.
The low volume/extra cost of the EGR port is a portion of it. The Edelbrock 3701 (EGR capable) shrinks but does not close the gap between the two in terms of price.
Shark Racer, after viewing your post I must agree that the GM 10185063 is for all intents and purposes the Edelbrock 3701. But, I'll bet if you measure the runner length of the ZZ4, 2101, and the 3701, they'll be the same or very close.
WOuldnt mind that Torker to have hanging on the garage wall if the price is fair? Let me know
Had one on a 67 rs had a 340hp solid lifter vette motor. ran good but I think a good dual plane woulda made more torque
intake for 69 350
