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Old Aug 31, 2021 | 01:10 AM
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Just curious if anyone here has chassis-dyno'd their Corvettes. I'm wondering if the IRS eats up more horsepower than a solid axle, and if it does, how much. I cant see it not making a difference.
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I know of 2 guys on here with dynos. Pauldana and 632C2 who are Paul and Steve. Both are great guys and will answer any questions you have.

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If there is a difference.....it is negligible. What would eat up the power? You still have a ring and pinion, and a set of bearings......the halfshafts should be straight or close to it....I doubt there is difference at all.

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Going along with Jebby..
The only difference is the power required/lost in the U joints.= negligible at best!

I suspect the the power loss in TIRE Selection is MORE!

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Yes, my 82 has been on various dyno's a lot over the years. At one time, I thought my car was a dyno queen. But anyway, I do not think that being a IRS has a bit to do with power ratings. However, with that said...It does matter how tight the car is strapped down and will/can have an affect on power, but that's on any car. Also, my car has been on a few different Dyno Dynamics dyno's which are called "heart breakers". They all seem to be more realistic on the results vs a Mustang or DynoJet, but you can manipulate the dyno as well. I like the Eddy Current Dyno Dynamics.

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I bet those rear disc brakes probably takes more HP to turn than the IRS does.
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Mass doesn't detract from the static HP numbers. It just takes a bit more time to get it wound up (inertia of rotating mass). There might be some insignificant amount of added friction in the bearings due to added mass....but I doubt any commercial dyno would notice any difference.
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The IRS does not have the squat or weight transfer a solid axle has.
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Originally Posted by Jebbysan
What would eat up the power?

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People go through trouble to lighten diff internals, axles, etc. and an IRS has actual spinning half shafts, which are what? 2.5" to 3" each? with 2 U-joints each, as opposed to just a thin axle and a thin flange ov a few inches. Also, Cobra guys have picked up MPH just by going solid axle over their IRS, and Mach 1 guys (solid axle) tend to dyno better than Cobra guys... with pretty much the same damn engine. Just wondering if its worth even 5-10HP on a 300-400HP engine is all.
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You are debating over "maybe" a couple of HP if that, for a street car which I find ridiculous. If you were racing competitively and every .01 or tenth counts, then do it if it makes you feel better, but I think this is craziness in a street car and not worth the effort or cost IMO. GL with your build and dyno pulls.
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You are debating over "maybe" a couple of HP if that, for a street car which I find ridiculous. If you were racing competitively and every .01 or tenth counts, then do it if it makes you feel better, but I think this is craziness in a street car and not worth the effort or cost IMO. GL with your build and dyno pulls.
A couple... is one thing. 5-10HP... is another. Its just a little dyno game i might be playing with another car group. I'm not interested in getting right into the nitty gritty ov dyno wars... like light/hard thin tires, lighter strapdowns, tire placement, etc... but just wondering if the IRS noticeably hurts RWHP is all.
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The extra drag from the U-joints is all I can think would be the difference. The weight doesn't matter for the actual measured HP, it just takes longer to get there.

All things being equal, does a car with a lighter flywheel make more HP than one with a stock flywheel? No! But it revs faster and feels quicker.

Now that you have two cars to play with, I'm looking forward to seeing your dyno pulls to either validate or disprove my theory.
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The extra drag from the U-joints is all I can think would be the difference. The weight doesn't matter for the actual measured HP, it just takes longer to get there.

All things being equal, does a car with a lighter flywheel make more HP than one with a stock flywheel? No! But it revs faster and feels quicker.

Now that you have two cars to play with, I'm looking forward to seeing your dyno pulls to either validate or disprove my theory.
I have two cars? Heh... not so sure the second one comes even remotely close to counting as a 'car'. More a conversation piece at the moment... but we'll see what happens...
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What about the toe in these car have in the rear. Doesn't that suck a few ponies?
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Originally Posted by Fly skids up!
What about the toe in these car have in the rear. Doesn't that suck a few ponies?

I wasn't aware they had that. Yeah... it might?
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Having toe-in on the rear wheels is a "driveability" thing. Someone focused on power would set them dead-straight.
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