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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 03:50 AM
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I changed my carburator from Holley to a very clean Quadrajet on my 327CI .
This one is from a 1972 350CI truck (704 2210 ) with original74 main jet and 43 main rod.
It's much too rich.
So I'm looking for an advice about a combo main jet / main rod to start from.
My engine is a 327CI with flat top pistons, Edelbrock Performer RPM 70cc heads and Crane Cam H-260-2 Intake @Cam 2847 @Valve 484 Exhaust @ Cam 3027 @Valve 515
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Send an email to Lars at V8FASTCARS@MSN.COM
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Originally Posted by ERICK
I changed my carburator from Holley to a very clean Quadrajet on my 327CI .
This one is from a 1972 350CI truck (704 2210 ) with original74 main jet and 43 main rod.
It's much too rich.
So I'm looking for an advice about a combo main jet / main rod to start from.
My engine is a 327CI with flat top pistons, Edelbrock Performer RPM 70cc heads and Crane Cam H-260-2 Intake @Cam 2847 @Valve 484 Exhaust @ Cam 3027 @Valve 515
You are moving over 40% more air through that combo so I doubt very highly it is the jetting........you say the carb is clean but has it been gone through and checked? The rod hanger could be stuck in the up position, float level way too high, bad upper plate gasket, plugged air bleed....and other things. Lars will probably chime in but if anything you are going to need more jet than what the carb came with as that combo is probably making over 100hp more than a stock 72' 350 truck engine (175hp net, probably 250 at the crank)......
Funny, I have a pristine example of that exact Q-Jet on the shelf but have never put it on anything yet......

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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 08:23 AM
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Rich condition , are you going on smell , spark plugs black or AFR gauge ?
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 06:46 PM
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You change both the rods and the jets to re-curve these carbs.
The fat part of the rod restricts fuel for idle/cruise range, the tips are much smaller to add fuel for WOT.
Which part do you need to richen?

And finding the right # parts these days is your biggest challenge.
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In 68 the 327/350 used 71 main with a 46 rod.
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Old Mar 7, 2024 | 11:46 PM
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You can't compare the jetting in a pre-'70 small main air bleed carb to the jetting on a post-70 large main air bleed carb. The comparison is completely irrelevant.

If a 1972 7042210 large-bleed carb is running too rich with 74 jets in it, you have problems far beyond the jet size. A large-bleed carb with 74 jets is a very lean running carb. You have other problems if the carb is actually running rich. The jet size is not your problem.
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The carburetor was remanufactured by uremco in 2011 and has not been used since. Everything seems to be in good condition.
The sparkplugs are black.
So if it's a lean running carb, what else should I check? float level, upper gasket, anything else ?
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Originally Posted by ERICK
The carburetor was remanufactured by uremco in 2011 and has not been used since. Everything seems to be in good condition.
The sparkplugs are black.
So if it's a lean running carb, what else should I check? float level, upper gasket, anything else ?
You should check the actual AFR readings, and check your timing.

Did you email @lars already? Please post some photos!
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Originally Posted by ERICK
The carburetor was remanufactured by uremco in 2011 and has not been used since. Everything seems to be in good condition.
The sparkplugs are black.
So if it's a lean running carb, what else should I check? float level, upper gasket, anything else ?
The fact that it was “remanufactured” means many possibilities for your issues. I know you are in France but you might want to seriously consider sending the carb to Lars in the USA. He is, by far and away, the most knowledgeable person in the world regarding the Quadrajet. 100% you will get a perfectly operating carb.
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This would be a good time to buy Cliff's how to rebuild and modify a Quadrajet carburetor if you want to try and figure out your carb or punt
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Gasoline in your country may be formulated or refined differently not sure if that's the case but there are definitely possibilities beyond jet sizes.
Did the Holley run better?
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Would be good to know what Holley? If he has a square bore intake and bolted on the Quadrajet with an adapter that would perhaps account for the problem.
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Originally Posted by ERICK
The carburetor was remanufactured by uremco in 2011 and has not been used since. Everything seems to be in good condition.
Uremco makes one of the most horrible "remanufactured" carbs on the planet. It is pure junk, and no amount of jetting or adjustment is going to fix it. It is not in "good condition." It is in horrible, hacked condition. Use that carb to practice your hook shots into the garage trash can and find a good, used, unmolested, rebuildable carb. E-mail me for my "Commercially Rebuilt Carb Problems" paper if you'd like to see a partial listing of all the things that are wrong with your carb. I know you're in France, making it difficult to locate and procure good carb cores, but there is no amount of effort or work that is going to fix that Uremco junk carb - I have thousands of parts in stock, and I would not waste my time putting any level of effort into it - it's a lost cause. Most Uremco carbs don't even have any usable parts on them, and I actually end up throwing them in the trash can.
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The holley was an universal 4160, 600cfm, squarbore so I changed also the manifold for a spreadbore with the quadrajet.
Because I didn't had used the car for a long time before the carb changement, I can't really tell about the differnce between both carburators. It's just seems pretty similar too me.
Lars, your last post is really encouraging... ;-) but I send you an email to learn more about "Commercially Rebuilt Carb Problems" .
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So with the help of Lars, his paper "Commercially Rebuilt Carb Problems" as well as his comments on the photos of the carburetor that I sent him, it turns out that the power piston's bottom pin had been removed,I'm lucky they don't brake it inside, and that idle air bypass was plugged.

I machined a new pin which I re-sleeved in place and removed the lead plugs.


So now idle is much better, sparkplugs are no more black and the idle mixture screw finally useful.

There are small hesitations at cruise around 2000RPM. I suppose it's a little bit lean.

Do I have to try a smaller rod first or a larger jet to correct that problem?



Idle tube and idle down have also been changed by remanufacturer,

idle tube : 0.029

idle down restriction : 0.047
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