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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 06:56 PM
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My engine started running rough today. I think it has been several weeks since I drove it. I does have a full tank of gas.

I pulled on of the spark plugs and it look great.

I never have had a gass problem before if this s what it is.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 07:53 PM
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What is your timing set to?
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 09:33 PM
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What is your timing set to?
I not sure. Probably 12-14 initials.

Do you think the timing could have moved?

How would timing cause this particular issue?
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LenWoodruff
I not sure. Probably 12-14 initials.

Do you think the timing could have moved?

How would timing cause this particular issue?
If you don't know, you should get your timing light out and check!

The last time my engine ran rough, the vac advance was plugged into ported vacuum, and it could barely idle at all. Oops, that was my fault. Easy fix! Only at idle, though.

If your distributor hold down is loose, you can lose timing, and that will affect you at all RPMs.

While you're in there with your timing light, you may find something obvious. Please post some photos! You'd be surprised what the Forum can notice.
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Old Oct 29, 2024 | 09:41 PM
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Look for rodent damage wires? Choke ok?
peak insde cap
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Had that happen to a couple of vehicles with HEI. Would start fine then begin to run rough after the engine warmed. Found it to be a typical HEI module failure mode.

Of course there can be other causes but the module can suddenly fail into a running rough condition. With cap moved out of the way remove the rotor to see if rust like particles are on bottom of rotor and advance weights. If so sparks can leak through rotor to the module over time.

Key to this is it runs OK until warm.
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Well, you looked at one spark plug and you say.it looks fine. What about the other 7?
Ran fine, then you let it sit for several weeks. most likely a fuel issue. But that's certainly not carved in stone.
3 things make your engine run. Compression, spark, and fuel. Not really likely your Compression would suffer in just a few weeks. A year or so, very much so.
So, just a few weeks, rule that out.
Fuel can and does go stale, creating varnish and gum in the fuel system. Low hanging fruit, remove and properly clean the carburetor and check all it circuits and operation.
Another low hanging fruit kinda thing, remove the distributor cap and look inside. Moisture inside cap?
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Originally Posted by DaveL82
Had that happen to a couple of vehicles with HEI. Would start fine then begin to run rough after the engine warmed. Found it to be a typical HEI module failure mode.

Of course there can be other causes but the module can suddenly fail into a running rough condition. With cap moved out of the way remove the rotor to see if rust like particles are on bottom of rotor and advance weights. If so sparks can leak through rotor to the module over time.

Key to this is it runs OK until warm.
Interesting. I does start ok. Then runs rough especially at low speed. I am going to check the plugs then I can start it and check the timing.
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Well, you looked at one spark plug and you say.it looks fine. What about the other 7?
Ran fine, then you let it sit for several weeks. most likely a fuel issue. But that's certainly not carved in stone.
3 things make your engine run. Compression, spark, and fuel. Not really likely your Compression would suffer in just a few weeks. A year or so, very much so.
So, just a few weeks, rule that out.
Fuel can and does go stale, creating varnish and gum in the fuel system. Low hanging fruit, remove and properly clean the carburetor and check all it circuits and operation.
Another low hanging fruit kinda thing, remove the distributor cap and look inside. Moisture inside cap?
Thanks for those ideas. I will check those out later today and let everyone know what I find.
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Anyway to check the gas to see if it is the problem. I added some fuel system cleaner thet is for carbs & to metigate water in the tank.
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i don't think 2 weeks will have gas turn but maybe..

sitting and moisture / drying may expose some weakness.. spark plug wires, cap , module, etc..
Maybe more detail on how running rough? idle, driving, hot cold etc..
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Originally Posted by LenWoodruff
Thanks for those ideas. I will check those out later today and let everyone know what I find.
I would also add, check your fuel filter
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i don't think 2 weeks will have gas turn but maybe..

sitting and moisture / drying may expose some weakness.. spark plug wires, cap , module, etc..
Maybe more detail on how running rough? idle, driving, hot cold etc..
Probably more like 3-4 weeks since I drove it. The last time I drove it I filled it with gas from the same station I always use.

It starts ok but runs rough especially at low speeds. It possible it cold be any of the items you listed. But it's kept in my grarageand we have pretty low humidity here in north Texas.
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Originally Posted by LenWoodruff
Probably more like 3-4 weeks since I drove it. The last time I drove it I filled it with gas from the same station I always use.

It starts ok but runs rough especially at low speeds. It possible it cold be any of the items you listed. But it's kept in my grarageand we have pretty low humidity here in north Texas.
a car in motion stays in motion .. drive it more often you will eliminate 80 % of the problems that occur from letting it sit . As mentioned check the module good luck
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Originally Posted by Cam33
a car in motion stays in motion .. drive it more often you will eliminate 80 % of the problems that occur from letting it sit . As mentioned check the module good luck
The module would still work but cause a rough engine? Is there anyway to test the module to see if that could be the issue?
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No easy way to test the module. I used to keep a spare for a quick swap test. Other components in the distributor like the main coil and pickup coil can be checked with an ohm meter. I used to carry a spare distributor in some of my vehicles when on long trips.

When you first start the car does it run normal at idle? If you drive it right away does it seem OK but then get worse as the engine warms up?

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No easy way to test the module. I used to keep a spare for a quick swap test. Other components in the distributor like the main coil and pickup coil can be checked with an ohm meter. I used to carry a spare distributor in some of my vehicles when on long trips.

When you first start the car does it run normal at idle? If you drive it right away does it seem OK but then get worse as the engine warms up?
It does start normally and idles at about 700 in drive. But as you accelerate it has the roughness. So I think the roughness is there cold or warm.
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That sure sounds like a HEI Ignition Controller or the Ignition Coil itself. Have you run the engine in the dark and had the hood open? That shows the "voltage leaks" from the spark plug wires. It is a simple test and very helpful just to be sure. The last time I did that I had leaks all over the place.

I have a 1988 Corvette that has an HEI ignition and therefore I keep older ignition modules as well. I am using parts from D.U.I. like their ignition coil, distributor cap with a stock Module. I keep a spare Ignition coil, Distributor Cap and Ignition Module in my garage as I am not that impressed with the longevity of the components.
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That sure sounds like a HEI Ignition Controller or the Ignition Coil itself. Have you run the engine in the dark and had the hood open? That shows the "voltage leaks" from the spark plug wires. It is a simple test and very helpful just to be sure. The last time I did that I had leaks all over the place.

I have a 1988 Corvette that has an HEI ignition and therefore I keep older ignition modules as well. I am using parts from D.U.I. like their ignition coil, distributor cap with a stock Module. I keep a spare Ignition coil, Distributor Cap and Ignition Module in my garage as I am not that impressed with the longevity of the components.
It starting to seem the the likely that it could be the ignition module failure. I just trying to confirm that the roughness is related because I thought the module would be work/not work?
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