C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Wiring management

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 7, 2026 | 04:54 PM
  #41  
The_JC_L46's Avatar
The_JC_L46
Instructor
Community Builder
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 240
Likes: 52
From: Seattle
Default

Originally Posted by Primoz
Installed everything today and all the lights work only the shifter indicator light doens't work.
Where does that get ground from?
Check the AIM where Alan 71 suggested.

After that, the best I can assist with is:

1969 Shop Manual diagram [original; differences from robertea’s color diagram, same principles
1969 Shop Manual diagram [original; differences from robertea’s color diagram, same principles]
“Console cluster” ground circled for location clarity in a B&W diagram.
“Console cluster” ground circled for location clarity in a B&W diagram.
Does your shift indicator look like this? (underside shown) ORG circle, bulb location GRN arrow, potential ground tab locations [Quick google search; apologies for resolution
Does your shift indicator look like this? (underside shown) ORG circle, bulb location ; GRN arrow, potential ground tab locations [Quick google search; apologies for resolution]


FWIW Primoz, 85-90% of the cluster bulbs are:

GRAY, single wire, power [B+, 12V]

So they need a ground source to complete the circuit…

Best way to ground [common small] loads (i.e. bulbs) is a metal frame with a single wire to a known good ground [common, chassis].

That’s why the:
Speedo
Tach
Center gauges
…have single GRAY in [bulb power], and shell/casing/housing/frame GROUND out.

Think of those metal panels as the ground. That’s why there’s usually a bolted-in / screwed-in male terminal for a female Packard 56 terminal in a 1-wire connector.

Does that make sense?

John

[EDITS: phrasing, pic re-upload]

Last edited by The_JC_L46; Mar 7, 2026 at 06:03 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2026 | 05:01 PM
  #42  
The_JC_L46's Avatar
The_JC_L46
Instructor
Community Builder
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 240
Likes: 52
From: Seattle
Default

Wait

Auto or manual?

What shift indicator light are you asking about?

If it’s manual, no shift indicator bulb … that’s what I’m getting from your pic in post#40 … it’s a manual.

Reply
Old Mar 8, 2026 | 03:41 AM
  #43  
Primoz's Avatar
Primoz
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 297
From: Slovenia, EU
2017 C3 of Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by The_JC_L46
Wait

Auto or manual?

What shift indicator light are you asking about?

If it’s manual, no shift indicator bulb … that’s what I’m getting from your pic in post#40 … it’s a manual.
Auto.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2026 | 12:19 PM
  #44  
Primoz's Avatar
Primoz
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 297
From: Slovenia, EU
2017 C3 of Year Finalist
Default

So.
The new cigarette lighter housing has an additional ground which original didn't have.
I used that to connect another ground wire to the center console bracket and now everything works like it should.
Of course I had to make a ground wire because original ground wire connects to heater control.

Now to the net question.
My brake light on the das doesn't light up when I pull the handbrake.
How to check if the switch is faulty?
It looks like a very simple switch but still.
I really don't want to take a dash apart to check if the bulb is still intact because all the other bulbs are working fine and because the dash is all together.







Reply
Old Mar 8, 2026 | 01:54 PM
  #45  
The_JC_L46's Avatar
The_JC_L46
Instructor
Community Builder
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 240
Likes: 52
From: Seattle
Default

Yep, simple switch.

Buuuut… now I have to revise what I said before about grounds. …a lil bit.

That switch when pressed (closes the circuit) is the ground. As in: switch makes the ground connection for the bulb.

The wire is 20 Tan (20T) in this diagram:


Since you’ve been checking all your bulbs, AND if you’re ok with turning the key to ON…

Key / Ignition ON
Press Brake Lever button
’Brake’ warning light in Tach housing should turn ON
[The 20P (pink) wire is IGN Switched power, so the key needs to be on to test it.]

A few of my switches were ‘gummy’ and I had to repeatedly push-on-off-on-off-repeat to get the (glove box light, etc…) to start to work.

In the diagram above (even though it’s a snip), the 20T goes to the firewall / bulkhead and back to the other 20T in the same diagram [they’re right next to each other]. From the firewall, it goes to the brake fluid warning switch in the brake system [low fluid / fluid loss indicator that also turns the ‘Brake’ warning light on].

Are you following?
Makes sense?

Last edited by The_JC_L46; Mar 8, 2026 at 02:05 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2026 | 02:00 PM
  #46  
Primoz's Avatar
Primoz
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 297
From: Slovenia, EU
2017 C3 of Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by The_JC_L46
Yep, simple switch.

Buuuut… now I have to revise what I said before about grounds. …a lil bit.

That switch when pressed (closes the circuit) is the ground. As in: switch makes the ground connection for the bulb.

The wire is 20 Tan (20T) in this diagram:
Since you’ve been checking all your bulbs, AND if you’re ok with turning the key to ON…

Key ON
Press button
’Brake’ warning light in Speedo
Tried that.
Key on, pressed the button several times and nothing happens.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2026 | 02:11 PM
  #47  
The_JC_L46's Avatar
The_JC_L46
Instructor
Community Builder
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 240
Likes: 52
From: Seattle
Default

Ok, IIRC, the tab [green arrow, below] moves, and should contact the bracket it’s in.

That makes the ground path.


Before I say I’m 100% sure, let me go look at mine.

BRB
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2026 | 02:21 PM
  #48  
Primoz's Avatar
Primoz
Thread Starter
Drifting
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 297
From: Slovenia, EU
2017 C3 of Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by The_JC_L46
Ok, IIRC, the tab [green arrow, below] moves, and should contact the bracket it’s in.

That makes the ground path.

Before I say I’m 100% sure, let me go look at mine.

BRB
Did that as well.
Can the bulb be tested by just taping the wire to a handbrake mounting that is all metal out of the switch of course.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 8, 2026 | 02:27 PM
  #49  
The_JC_L46's Avatar
The_JC_L46
Instructor
Community Builder
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 240
Likes: 52
From: Seattle
Default

Yep, that’s the contact.

Park brake handle
Park brake handle
Zoomed in, handle down, switch open
Zoomed in, handle down, switch open
Zoomed in, handle up, switch closes -> note the tab is contacting the bracket.
Zoomed in, handle up, switch closes -> note the tab is contacting the bracket.

If you want to check another way, run a wire to a known-good ground, and touch that wire to the tab. The bulb should light up.

Bulb lights up?
Switch is making poor / no contact [ground path]

Bulb still doesn’t work?
Check the following:
  • Door Ajar light turns on?
  • “Gauges” fuse ok?
  • Water temp or Fuel gauges move?

They're all on the same 18P (pink) power circuit.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2026 | 02:31 PM
  #50  
The_JC_L46's Avatar
The_JC_L46
Instructor
Community Builder
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 240
Likes: 52
From: Seattle
Default

If it’s the switch, try one - or all - of these options:
  • Scuff the tab a lil bit
  • Remove switch bracket and scuff the side that connects to the park-brake handle frame
  • Put a star washer on the bolt that holds the bracket to the park-brake handle frame

Again, is this making sense?
Are we headed in the right direction?
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2026 | 02:36 PM
  #51  
The_JC_L46's Avatar
The_JC_L46
Instructor
Community Builder
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 240
Likes: 52
From: Seattle
Default

Originally Posted by Primoz
Did that as well.
Can the bulb be tested by just taping the wire to a handbrake mounting that is all metal out of the switch of course.
Yes, see my post(s) above.
We're doing this in real-time, so the replies are getting out of order.

Also, see the bit about your ‘Door Ajar’ light working. That’s a quick test to tell you the ‘Gauges’ fuse should be in-tact.

And I might be mistaken (it’s been months since I fixed that switch), but the switch comes out and disassembles easily (?!?).

A dirty contact inside it may keep the circuit from grounding.
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:20 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE