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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 04:41 AM
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are they as strong as they claim?
who likes em...
and who dosnt???
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 05:06 AM
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They been in my car from tranny back...6 of them, for about ten years now....275/17 rubber, but I don'lt drag race, only have maybe 6 passes with it, and that was years ago.....

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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A couple of posts by forum members have mentioned that even the non-greasable one are hollow casting. Being solid is the reason you buy non-greasable ones. For the half shafts I would stay with spicer.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 05:35 AM
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I don't like them, the radii are much sharper than on the spicers so I would suspect they go out much easier, I'd stick to solid spicers.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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I used brute force U-joints on my half shaft. Here's what they looked like after 3 years:



I replaced them with spicer solids and here's a side-by-side:

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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In that upper pic it's pretty apparent that it's the same forging as for one w/ a grease fitting...
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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Spicer. Spicer. Spicer.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
In that upper pic it's pretty apparent that it's the same forging as for one w/ a grease fitting...
looks like it!
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If you do install one with a grease fitting, be sure to install it so the fitting is under compression, rather than the tension side. They are stronger that way.

-Mark.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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I have had problems with them breaking. So big deal they replaced them for free but I still had t do the labor. Spicer next time around for sure.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SIGNGUY
are they as strong as they claim?
who likes em...
and who dosnt???
I had Brute Force in the halfshafts for several years without incident. I made alot of dragstrip passes during that time, many spraying off the line, without incident. Then last year one snapped on the starting line and the halfshaft exited the car after mangling the battery box and the trailing arm. Now I have Spicers which doesn't necessarily mean the same thing won't happen. The halfshafts won't be going anywhere because I've got the loops now.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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hhhmmm...
ok...looks like Spicer wins out...
so if i get the greaseless...they will be solid?
how long will they last being greaseless...

(i DO understand that being greaseless dosnt mean that they have no grease...only that i cant add any)
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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not trying to hijack the thread..but where do you get Spicer ujoints?
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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Now I wonder what the stock ones are on a big-block car...?
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I got mine at Driveline specialties here in Orlando. OEM is spicer non greasable and I have seel originals last close to 100K. Spicers ar far superior. The non greasable spicers are solid...
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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I know our friends at Van Steel uses Spicer in their shafts.

I believe they also sell the u joints seperately.

Give Art or Dan a call
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I got my spicers from fastcorvette. No linky due to forum rules but you can figure out the URL...
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I don't understand what spicer and all that means?
I recently ordered Solid-non greaseable U joints from Van Steel. Should I reconsider and get this "spicer" ones? Can someone explain them to me on a technical aspect, all this is kind of new to me..

Bry
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First off, the halfshafts on corvettes are very hard on U-joints, even to the point of breaking sometimes. When the U joint is cast with a hole for the grease to go to the caps it becomes weaker. Solid is much stronger. Now ... there is a difference in needle size and hardness from brand to brand and I am sure some of the castings are inferior when compared. The cheapies from discount stores are very short lived in the half shaft application. You DO NOT want to have a loose halfshaft spinning under the car whe you shift into 3rd gear at 80mph!!! It will ruin you day. You get what you pay for... Spicer is one of the Original equipment joints used in Corvettes.
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Originally Posted by Larry B.
First off, the halfshafts on corvettes are very hard on U-joints, even to the point of breaking sometimes. When the U joint is cast with a hole for the grease to go to the caps it becomes weaker. Solid is much stronger. Now ... there is a difference in needle size and hardness from brand to brand and I am sure some of the castings are inferior when compared. The cheapies from discount stores are very short lived in the half shaft application. You DO NOT want to have a loose halfshaft spinning under the car whe you shift into 3rd gear at 80mph!!! It will ruin you day. You get what you pay for... Spicer is one of the Original equipment joints used in Corvettes.
Had Spicers in the 59 in 1970, They've been around for a LONG time.
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