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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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anybody have any experience or opinions about gear reductions starters. Mean Green sells a 4.4 to 1 starter that they "claim" solves all hot start problems. my 79 starts fine when cold but really "bogs down" on restarts after running up to operating temperature. heat soak from headers. put in a starter relay which helped a little. heat sheilds seem to have no effect. would appreciate hearing from anyone who has used one of these starters.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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I believe that gear reduction starters became well know when Chrysler started building the hemi. They couldn't get them started with regular starters so they started using gear reduction starters with terrific results. They are great starters and if and when mine dies on my 79 it will be replaced with a gear reduction unit!
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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IF I could pick up one cheap enough, I may change over to one of them for the weight savings....maybe....depends....

the hot start problems are associated with.....bad wiring...little else....

UNLESS of course you have a 600f++ header withing an inch or so of the starter, then you are damn near melting the insulation of the thing....use 1/2 a brain and move the freaking header....

all else is bad wiring, like I said....

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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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yes, the header is close to the starter but how do you move the header without bending or warping the heck out of it. it fits like it fits.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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I have a GM starter that is used in most of the newer cars. It comes on most of the truck motors and most of the newer cars. It has turned my car over fine for 2 years hot or cold. Very small and light weight. I bought mine new but I'll bet you could pull a good one out of a bone yard far cheaper than the other gear reduction starters. GM uses this one on the big blocks also. i am running headers on mine. With the stock starter it was close to the selonoid now it is quite far away and I never have heat soak. You can't just move the header, get a smaller starter.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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I have a powermaster Xs mini-------so far so good, but I never had a hot starting problem before. The main attraction for me was a pretty substantial weight savings and a cleaner, tighter fit.
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Originally Posted by oregonsharkman
I have a powermaster Xs mini-------so far so good, but I never had a hot starting problem before. The main attraction for me was a pretty substantial weight savings and a cleaner, tighter fit.
I've used the Powermaster xs torque for years with NO problems....I'm fully satisfied.
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When my starter went bad on my 71 Z/28 I put on a mini starter and I love it.
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Originally Posted by Gordonm
I have a GM starter that is used in most of the newer cars. It comes on most of the truck motors and most of the newer cars. Very small and light weight.
I am using a C4 TPI starter on mine, works great.
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Originally Posted by greyghost79
anybody have any experience or opinions about gear reductions starters. Mean Green sells a 4.4 to 1 starter that they "claim" solves all hot start problems. my 79 starts fine when cold but really "bogs down" on restarts after running up to operating temperature. heat soak from headers. put in a starter relay which helped a little. heat sheilds seem to have no effect. would appreciate hearing from anyone who has used one of these starters.
I like the starter, but hate the noise. Mine sounds like the OEM starter, but needing shimmed. It is very loud.

When I asked the vendor about it, I was send another starter - which sounds the same way.

My stroker has 12K miles on it now, and the starter is still noisey as Dickens. But it starts every time.

They explained to me that the reduction starters have one gear less than the OEM starter and thats' what causes the noise.

Any takers on that?
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I have a gear reduction starter and it sounds like any new car cranking. Mine is a Delco from a mid 90's 454 pickup.
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