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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Sold a car on ebay (item 4506428663) 68 427.
The winner emailed and said the heads were from a 69 corvette, he got this info from the corvette black book. So he said my item was misrepresented. Here are the head #3931063. Is he right or trying to get over on me?
I have a How to rebuild your BB book and it just gives years 65-69 427.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Seems like you posted head #'s on November 27th and auction didn't end until today. I think he is just trying to beat you down on the price he already comitted to. Don't know if those are the right heads or not but he should have investigated prior to bidding.

My $.02/worth
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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From mortec.com

3931063....68-69...oval..CLOSED..396, 402, 427, 101cc chamber

BUT
Black book says 3931063 only on '69 427-390 & 400hp.

1968 the head isn't listed.

1968 heads listed as:

3917215
3917291
3917292
3919840
3919842

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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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The guy bought a custom vette. I can verify his black book saying.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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Black Book lists 3917215 as the head number for the 68 427 390 HP and your number for the 69.

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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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So what??? Big effing deal. Bring him over here. We'll help him insert the Black Book into the appropriate orifice
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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So what??? Big effing deal. Bring him over here. We'll help him insert the Black Book into the appropriate orifice
I'm with you on that one!
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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So what??? Big effing deal. Bring him over here. We'll help him insert the Black Book into the appropriate orifice




Other than the heads, it's numbers matching?

What's the beef. At that price he should be glad the heads are still there.
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Other than the heads, it's numbers matching?

What's the beef. At that price he should be glad the heads are still there.
The block is matching. Like I said in the auction, I am not positive about the trans but will check if told how.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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since when are heads a part of the block? The guy is an idiot. If someone offered me that car for that price over here I'd be all over it.
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Originally Posted by brylo225
Hello all,
Sold a car on ebay (item 4506428663) 68 427.
The winner emailed and said the heads were from a 69 corvette, he got this info from the corvette black book. So he said my item was misrepresented. Here are the head #3931063. Is he right or trying to get over on me?
I have a How to rebuild your BB book and it just gives years 65-69 427.
Thanks
Bryan
I have to say that you represented your part in the auction description! For one, the car is an obvious fixer-upper. Any ding-dong that is going to bid on it needs to ask all the right questions and check out that info, before bidding. You even state that in your terms of sale. In your update post on the 27th, you didn't specify if the heads were for a 68 or 69, that is not misrepresenting anything, you just posted the casting number(s). I mean, the car is old and needs work. You already stated half a dozen things that weren't original.

Unfortunitely, solving this will be almost impossible. Try to work with it. If he just wants to back out completely, then he didn't want it to begin with. If he wants it, but wants some money taken off the final price then you know he wants to get something for nothing. You might have to cut your losses and go back through the car and repost it with all information in the ad. I hope it works out! Good Luck!
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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I agree that you seem to have represented the car very well. I was following this auction, and if I could have gotten some more info on the numbers and more photos of the interior and frame, I would have been a "player" for this car. Looks like the "next in line" bidder has good feedback on this type of purchase---have you contacted him/her? I would consider buying this vette from you if you could get me more info and pics. Please e me if this is possible. G.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by micks69
Seems like you posted head #'s on November 27th and auction didn't end until today. I think he is just trying to beat you down on the price he already comitted to. Don't know if those are the right heads or not but he should have investigated prior to bidding.

My $.02/worth
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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Those heads are interchangable with the 215's.

I think they were used on late 68's besides the 69's.

If he does not want it (considering he bid before the head numbers were posted), I would offer it to the second bidder. He would probably haunt you about this and that anyway.

It sounds like you represented the car well. It is not a barn survivor, the 215 heads are fairly easy to obtain, if he needed them for whatever reason.

Just my opinion.

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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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I think the VIN should be on the passenger side Muncie case if it's a 4sp.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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I think the VIN should be on the passenger side Muncie case if it's a 4sp.

I agree, my Muncie gearbox is date coded with a stamp and my big block heads are date coded on the casting (cast numbers). You will have to remove the valve covers to see.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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I agree with the above stmts that you represented this car very well, btw I am not the gdh that bought it, 1 C3 vert is enough for me.
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Ask the winning bidder what he wants to do. If he wants the car he can pay the price. The difference in value between a set of 68 heads and a set of 69 heads is probably pretty low. Keep in mind that the next guy in line is only $100 away so no need to come off much more than that.

If he balks, give him a "neutral" for his feedback file and talk to the second bidder. Tell him you will relist it as a 1 day auction with a buy-it-now price that he bid earlier and see if he wants to do the deal. I bet he will take the bait. That is a lot of car for the cabbage.

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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stingr69
Ask the winning bidder what he wants to do. If he wants the car he can pay the price. The difference in value between a set of 68 heads and a set of 69 heads is probably pretty low. Keep in mind that the next guy in line is only $100 away so no need to come off much more than that.

If he balks, give him a "neutral" for his feedback file and talk to the second bidder. Tell him you will relist it as a 1 day auction with a buy-it-now price that he bid earlier and see if he wants to do the deal. I bet he will take the bait. That is a lot of car for the cabbage.

-Mark.

you can contact the 'second high' bidder without re-listing. Ebay gives you that option if the high bidder does not pay or whatever.... didn't see how much the bids were... you may be lucky and get a lot more in another auction.... since the car didn't sell Ebay may let you re-list again with no aditional charge...
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Originally Posted by dburkart
Black Book lists 3917215 as the head number for the 68 427 390 HP and your number for the 69.
Dave B.
My NCRS judging manual says they are for a 69 390 or 400hp, but where used on 68 cars as early as March of 1968.

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