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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Whoa, check it out!


I think the proportions are a little strange looking but it's kind of cool.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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Mmm Im not really keen on that, instead of looking like a shark, it now looks like a frog
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Hah, you're right! But I think the green is helping that. ribbit, ribbit.

Maybe if the rear overhang where shortened a lot the proportion may get better.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Interesting photochop

But, all C3s are mid engine. Just that they are front mid engine rather that rear mid engine. Mid engine is where the engine sets between the axles. So you can have the engine in front of or behind the driver.

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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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So how do those sidepipes work?
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Tom, not true. Mid-engine means it is behind the driver and forward of the rear axle. There are plenty of trucks and cars that have the engine behind the front axles but that doesn't make them mid-engine.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Photochop. Look at the severe smudging above the rear fenders.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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I thought a C3 was already at about 60/40 weight distribution.

If you put the motor in the back what happens then?

May make for interesting wheelies at the lights!
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Tom, not true. Mid-engine means it is behind the driver and forward of the rear axle. There are plenty of trucks and cars that have the engine behind the front axles but that doesn't make them mid-engine.
Well the Vette is a Front Mid-Engine car. Same with the Panoz. I think the term mid-engine was used for cars with it behind the driver but it should be rear mid-engine.

The term mid (middle) could be either in front of or behind the driver. The vette does have a mid engine.

at least thats my take on it.

"I thought a C3 was already at about 60/40 weight distribution."

It is more like 49/51 I think. Near perfect 50/50.
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This looks like a photochopped Vette to me. look where the side grills are and how short the front end is. If it is real, it is definitely not something I would want to own. It has the tadpole thing going on. The lines of a C3 are classic and don't need to be dicked with in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by burners
Tom, not true. Mid-engine means it is behind the driver and forward of the rear axle. There are plenty of trucks and cars that have the engine behind the front axles but that doesn't make them mid-engine.
True.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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True.
ah, one of my most revisited arguements.

Main Entry: mid
Function: abbreviation
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I will have to see proof that mid-engine means the engine HAS to be behind the driver before I give in.
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Originally Posted by CGGorman
Photochop. Look at the severe smudging above the rear fenders.
I don't think it is photochopped, there is too much customizing of the door shape, the handle, grills etc. and the rear window is sloped, not vertical. That is a little too detailed for even the best
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flood, it's common terminology in the automotive world. Even a Panoz is called a front engine car. It helps avoid confusion. There is no good reason to call a front engine car a mid. Mid engine cars always have the driver moved further forward than a front engine car. i.e. most Ferraris, yet the 550 Maranello is a front engine layout (and Ferrari calls it that) but it has a similar setback as a Corvette or Panoz.
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You couldn't pay me to drive that thing unless it was nighttime and no one was around.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by burners
flood, it's common terminology in the automotive world. Even a Panoz is called a front engine car. It helps avoid confusion. There is no good reason to call a front engine car a mid. Mid engine cars always have the driver moved further forward than a front engine car. i.e. most Ferraris, yet the 550 Maranello is a front engine layout (and Ferrari calls it that) but it has a similar setback as a Corvette or Panoz.
I understand where your coming from. Only the Panoz is listed as such:

"Layout: Front mid/engine, rear wheel drive, two passenger, two-door roadster "
http://www.panozauto.com/pa02_204b.htm

And I would tend to agree with panoz. I mean think about it like this. A 911 is a rear engine, a MR2 is a rear mid/engine, panoz/corvette front mid engine, mustang front engine.

Some front-engine cars (such as the Mazda RX-7) are considered front mid-engine designs because their engines are positioned aft of the front-wheel centerline.

All in all it doesn't really matter, but im right. The corvette is a mid-engine car. Front mid rather than rear mid even though its commonly accepted that a mid-engine car has the engine behind the driver.

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In my opinion mid engine means behind the driver and in front of the rear axle. The old VWs were rear engine, engine behind the rear axel. Would you call a mini van a mid engine because the motor is behind the front axle? This might **** off a guy named Ferrari.
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Would you call a mini van a mid engine because the motor is behind the front axle? This might **** off a guy named Ferrari.
Good point. Yes I would call it a mid-engine. Front mid engine to be exact.

its not a performace term, it refers to the placement of the engine
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I saw something like this years ago only the guy used a Oldsmobile front wheel drive suspension with the wheels welded strait. He only had to add about 3" behind the driver to get it all in there.

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